Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman doesnt oneshot people in space. Its out of character. He brawls with them and all it takes is a Kalibak punch to knock him senseless.Thanos>Gog(jsa)>>Superman kc.
Really? Sounds like you want to dodge how easily Hulk can be one shotted to space. That and they are all still slow and can be tied up the WW's lasso with ease.
Thanos has been knocked back by spiderman..since you're fond of trying to use low moments to try and make a case.
Thanos is the deal breaker here, where as he can almost solo Team 2 for the majority himself. With WWH and THOR Team 1 dominates every matching.
WWH gets absolutely 0% respect from the DC faithful. He can systematically take down everyone on Marvel earth (and beyond) one after each other but, gets raped by Superman. Not so much.
And THOR if you where to take out company bias and written to their power sets would pwn every member of Team 2 one on one.
Team 2 takes this. KC Superman, to take out either WWH or Thor by himself.
Regular Superman can take out WWH or Thor.
Orion (remember the astro force) and one of the Supermen (especially KC) can take Thanos and Wonder Woman runs interference via her lasso. How the hell can team 1 take this when both Supes can take Thor and WWH, and they have the astro force wielder in Orion? Especially when they have a big disadvantage in speed and overall durability?
The Team 1 argument is dependant on Thanos taking out WW and Orion quickly when both are quicker overall and have versatile weapons like the astro force and the lasso. I certainly see two quick experienced warriors with versatile powers holding off the slower (non flying) Thanos long enough that one of the Supes gets involved to help take him out.
Originally posted by AvlonI know Superman has done it a few times. But that still doesnt mean its in his character to do so. No way he is doing this to WW Hulk when the guy failed to do it to DOS Doomsday.
Really? Sounds like you want to dodge how easily Hulk can be one shotted to space. That and they are all still slow and can be tied up the WW's lasso with ease.Thanos has been knocked back by spiderman..since you're fond of trying to use low moments to try and make a case.
Any character can be knocked back. Since when has knocking someone backward meant anything to anyone?
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Originally posted by Sirius77Thor is capable of beating Superman. WW Hulk is more than kc Superman. Thanos is by far in a league of his own in this thread and dominates whoever gets in his way.
Slight majority to team two. The only reason is thanos. If he wasn't there, it would be a stomp. WWH wont do anything but get bfred. Thor will get taken out by regular superman with some trouble. The rest will overwhelm Thanos.
Originally posted by AllanklesKC Superman has done nothing to suggest he can take WW Hulk. 😬
Team 2 takes this. KC Superman, to take out either WWH or Thor by himself.Regular Superman can take out WWH or Thor.
Orion (remember the astro force) and one of the Supermen (especially KC) can take Thanos and Wonder Woman runs interference via her lasso. How the hell can team 1 take this when both Supes can take Thor and WWH, and they have the astro force wielder in Orion? Especially when they have a big disadvantage in speed and overall durability?
The Team 1 argument is dependant on Thanos taking out WW and Orion quickly when both are quicker overall and have versatile weapons like the astro force and the lasso. I certainly see two quick experienced warriors with versatile powers holding off the slower (non flying) Thanos long enough that one of the Supes gets involved to help take him out.
Orion and Superman dont have the power to beat Thanos. If Odin couldnt do it these guys are getting dominated.
WW gets crushed by WW Hulk or by Thor. Whoever she faces blasts her into next week.
Originally posted by quanchi112
KC Superman has done nothing to suggest he can take WW Hulk. 😬Orion and Superman dont have the power to beat Thanos. If Odin couldnt do it these guys are getting dominated.
WW gets crushed by WW Hulk or by Thor. Whoever she faces blasts her into next week.
1. LULZ. So bitchslapping Hercules, standing up against an insane Captain Marvel, and being acknowledge as a stronger version of Superman with no weaknesses counts for shit?
2. Odin wasn't trying. You do not want to get into a pissing contest of who has beat who with Superman. Orion can more than hold his own as well.
Hulk will never touch her. Nor will Thor.
"doubt WW's lasso will work to restrain Hulk, magic doesn't have that much of a hold over him. Strange used the Bands of Cyttorak and failed to hold Hulk."
False analogy. Hulk rarely does well against high end magic users. And the lasso has NEVER broken.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHercules fails to impress.
1. LULZ. So bitchslapping Hercules, standing up against an insane Captain Marvel, and being acknowledge as a stronger version of Superman with no weaknesses counts for shit?2. Odin wasn't trying. You do not want to get into a pissing contest of who has beat who with Superman. Orion can more than hold his own as well.
Hulk will never touch her. Nor will Thor.
"doubt WW's lasso will work to restrain Hulk, magic doesn't have that much of a hold over him. Strange used the Bands of Cyttorak and failed to hold Hulk."
False analogy. Hulk rarely does well against high end magic users. And the lasso has NEVER broken.
Beating Captain Marvel is something Superman has always been able to do.
I saw Superman get treated like a ragdoll by jsa Gog. He had a ton of help and was nothing to him. He is a slightly more powerful Superman but still doesnt match up physically with WW Hulk. 😬
The guy was holding his own against a moving Juggernaut. Thats impressive.
Odin was defending Asgard and gave Thanos props while the Surfer was oneshotted.
Hulk will hit her or thunderclap. She wont do any damage to him. Thor is very versatile with his hammer and beats her easily.
No one on this team imo can take down Thanos. Orion is a joke compared to Thanos.
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I saw Superman get treated like a ragdoll by jsa Gog. He had a ton of help and was nothing to him. He is a slightly more powerful Superman but still doesnt match up physically with WW Hulk.
JSA Gog easily defeated the infinity man. He's way above top tier.
"doubt WW's lasso will work to restrain Hulk, magic doesn't have that much of a hold over him. Strange used the Bands of Cyttorak and failed to hold Hulk."
Strange bands of Cytorack failed to hold Skrulbolt as well. lets stop pretending that strange is still at clasic levels.
Wonder woman could beat Thor if we actually let her use her speed. Rather than the usual DC character can't use speed but Marvel character can use powers they use every few years method of debating
The top tiers on team 1 can't beat KC Superman one on one. Nothing Superman and Orion who have shown they can have pro longed fights with those above their tier to hold Thanos off until everyone can dog pile him.
Originally posted by GalvaclawHe didnt defeat IM. He just ran him off. Their confrontation lasted a few moments. It was pathetic on Im's part but it doesnt show he was inferior to jsa Gog only comparable. Im didnt also kill Superman because he wasnt supposed to.
.JSA Gog easily defeated the infinity man. He's way above top tier.
Strange bands of Cytorack failed to hold Skrulbolt as well. lets stop pretending that strange is still at clasic levels.
Wonder woman could beat Thor if we actually let her use her speed. Rather than the usual DC character can't use speed but Marvel character can use powers they use every few years method of debating
The top tiers on team 1 can't beat KC Superman one on one. Nothing Superman and Orion who have shown they can have pro longed fights with those above their tier to hold Thanos off until everyone can dog pile him.
JSA Gog was killed. This guy wasnt as powerful as kingdom Gog imo.
WW would lose to Thor,she couldnt land the winning blow.
Superman couldnt last long against Thanos. He hits a lot harder than Kalibak or Henshaw. Orion would get wrecked by him also. Look how easily and quickly he has beaten the Surfer.
Originally posted by Allankles
Team 2 takes this. KC Superman, to take out either WWH or Thor by himself.Regular Superman can take out WWH or Thor.
Orion (remember the astro force) and one of the Supermen (especially KC) can take Thanos and Wonder Woman runs interference via her lasso. How the hell can team 1 take this when both Supes can take Thor and WWH, and they have the astro force wielder in Orion? Especially when they have a big disadvantage in speed and overall durability?
The Team 1 argument is dependant on Thanos taking out WW and Orion quickly when both are quicker overall and have versatile weapons like the astro force and the lasso. I certainly see two quick experienced warriors with versatile powers holding off the slower (non flying) Thanos long enough that one of the Supes gets involved to help take him out.
I'll give you the speed advantage for DC but, durability??? Nobody on Team 2 is more durable than anybody on Team 1.
Again, Current Thanos would more than likely stalemate Team 2 by his lonesome. THOR and WWH can beat any one of the members of Team 2 one on one.
IMO this isn't even close. Team 2 dies. Every time.
Originally posted by The IlluminatiAgreed.
I'll give you the speed advantage for DC but, durability??? Nobody on Team 2 is more durable than anybody on Team 1.Again, Current Thanos would more than likely stalemate Team 2 by his lonesome. THOR and WWH can beat any one of the members of Team 2 one on one.
IMO this isn't even close. Team 2 dies. Every time.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman got knocked stupid by a Kalibak punch. 😬He also failed to dominate WW when he had a sunamp and wasnt holding back.
He has also been raped by Cyborg with rings in three blows.
Superman physically doesnt compare to WW Hulk.
KC Supes doesnt either.
Originally posted by janus77
doubt WW's lasso will work to restrain Hulk, magic doesn't have that much of a hold over him. Strange used the Bands of Cyttorak and failed to hold Hulk.
ARE YOU SERIOUS? The Lasso has held Gods, Cosmic Beings and Even Superman. It isn't that it just is magic and makes anyone held in it docile or within her sway, but it's unbreakable. If she Tied him up the way she did amazo, he wouldn't be able to move, whether he's still in control of his mind or not.
