how many attacks per second could obi-wan block as of ROTS wasn't like 60 or somethin? either way i'm goin to say Rots obi-wan takes this comfortably.
he knows himself and could exploit the weaknesses of his past self and he knows how qui-gon fights but the TPM team doesn't know just how good rots obi is with a lightsaber.
I think thats cheating... that ROTS Kenobi knows them but they dnt knw him.. and its likely Qui-Gon would recognise a Soresu Master when he sees one..
Qui-Gon is good on his own. he was one of the best swordsman in the Galaxy,(next best after Mace at the time I think) so I think we can assume he was at least a High Level Master of Ataru.. probably completely mastered it.
Young Kenobi was ready to be knighted, and his Ataru was quite good as well. Handling 2 jedis is never an easy task unless your a really Uber powerful Jedi/Sith.. and these 2 are no ordinary jedi.. I think the 2 of them should take this. It would be difficult for Kenobi to keep defending agianst 2 really fast saber strikes, one on either side of him..
though it may take them a while to get thorugh ROTS Kenobis defense.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I think thats cheating... that ROTS Kenobi knows them but they dnt knw him.. and its likely Qui-Gon would recognise a Soresu Master when he sees one..Qui-Gon is good on his own. he was one of the best swordsman in the Galaxy,(next best after Mace at the time I think) so I think we can assume he was at least a High Level Master of Ataru.. probably completely mastered it.
Young Kenobi was ready to be knighted, and his Ataru was quite good as well. Handling 2 jedis is never an easy task unless your a really Uber powerful Jedi/Sith.. and these 2 are no ordinary jedi.. I think the 2 of them should take this. It would be difficult for Kenobi to keep defending agianst 2 really fast saber strikes, one on either side of him..
though it may take them a while to get thorugh ROTS Kenobis defense.
I don't see them beating ROTS Obi.
Why would Obi knowing Qui-Gon's, Padawan Obi and Maul's styles be cheating? It is only logical since this is an Obi-Wan who has had experience with all 3 of them.
Maul and Qui-Gon are the biggest threat if you ask me. Mostly because Padawan Obi-Wan's defense isn't all too great and it wouldn't take General Kenobi much to split, or take out his younger self.
Maul's deadly...but Kenobi's Soresu will simply be too much, especially after watching how the General made short work of Grievous.
Qui-Gon's physically imposing, but I don't see him doing any better than he did against Maul.
Anyways if the team wins it is most likely because of the numbers advantage.
But that's just the way I see it.
Wait a second... it's Maul, Qui-Gon, and TPM Obi-Wan vs. RotS Obi-Wan? If so, Obi-Wan gets owned. All three of them are rather formidable- particularly Maul- and can, most likely, overload his defenses if they attack him on all sides. Sure, his defense is possibly the best we've ever seen, but it won't be enough to protect himself from the combined attacks of three formidable opponents; unless he manages to pull off a 'high ground' on them, or they somehow don't work well together, Obi-Wan gets beaten.
If it's just against Qui-Gon and TPM Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan should beat them. They simply can't do much to him without the assistance of Maul, and while they may win in a force fight- seeing as all three didn't display any particularly impressive force feats- he could take them for a ride. I doubt that they're gonna be able to pull off 20 strikes per second, and seeing as RotS Obi-Wan's defense is far superior to Maul's, he should be able to fend them off with relative ease. Their Ataru will leave them open occasionally, and Obi-Wan can own them if that's the case.
Originally posted by Sidi-Boy
Wait a second... it's Maul, Qui-Gon, and TPM Obi-Wan vs. RotS Obi-Wan? If so, Obi-Wan gets owned. All three of them are rather formidable- particularly Maul- and can, most likely, overload his defenses if they attack him on all sides. Sure, his defense is possibly the best we've ever seen, but it won't be enough to protect himself from the combined attacks of three formidable opponents; unless he manages to pull off a 'high ground' on them, or they somehow don't work well together, Obi-Wan gets beaten.If it's just against Qui-Gon and TPM Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan should beat them. They simply can't do much to him without the assistance of Maul, and while they may win in a force fight- seeing as all three didn't display any particularly impressive force feats- he could take them for a ride. I doubt that they're gonna be able to pull off 20 strikes per second, and seeing as RotS Obi-Wan's defense is far superior to Maul's, he should be able to fend them off with relative ease. Their Ataru will leave them open occasionally, and Obi-Wan can own them if that's the case.
i origionally intended just the two jedi to fight obi but if you throw in maul i think that would make them lose because with a saberstaff and juyo he will not work well with 2 ataro users as they might all cut eachother up in battle
Originally posted by Man of Christ
i origionally intended just the two jedi to fight obi but if you throw in maul i think that would make them lose because with a saberstaff and juyo he will not work well with 2 ataro users as they might all cut eachother up in battle
No. Maul attacks him from the back; they attack him from the front... watch this:
Maul: Back
Obi-Wan: Middle
Qui-Gon: Diagonal left
Obi2: Diagonal Right
There you have it. There won't be a space limitation if they focus on just their attacks; unless they pull off some crazy Ataru acrobatics; which I doubt they'll do; there's gonna be more than enough space for them to take out Obi-Wan, if they work together as a coordinated team. You have Maul using fast Juyo strikes from behind, maybe even landing a kick or two on Obi-Wan, and you have two competent Ataru users slicing him up in the front; Obi-Wan can block 20 strikes per second when it's all coming in front of him, but how can he block strikes coming on all of his sides, in addition to some kicks made by Maul? He'll be curbstomped.
Originally posted by Sidi-Boy
No. Maul attacks him from the back; they attack him from the front... watch this:Maul: Back
Obi-Wan: Middle
Qui-Gon: Diagonal left
Obi2: Diagonal RightThere you have it. There won't be a space limitation if they focus on just their attacks; unless they pull off some crazy Ataru acrobatics; which I doubt they'll do; there's gonna be more than enough space for them to take out Obi-Wan, if they work together as a coordinated team. You have Maul using fast Juyo strikes from behind, maybe even landing a kick or two on Obi-Wan, and you have two competent Ataru users slicing him up in the front; Obi-Wan can block 20 strikes per second when it's all coming in front of him, but how can he block strikes coming on all of his sides, in addition to some kicks made by Maul? He'll be curbstomped.
lets use your scenario it is every risky and this could happen:
Obi wan, realizing he is surrounded jumps in the air when they swing and they care eachother up.
or
quigon stabs at obi, he sidesteps and the saber strikes maul.
or another variant of the above situation
Originally posted by Man of Christ
lets use your scenario it is every risky and this could happen:Obi wan, realizing he is surrounded jumps in the air when they swing and they care eachother up.
or
quigon stabs at obi, he sidesteps and the saber strikes maul.
or another variant of the above situation
While that's a possibility, remember that if Obi-Wan is indeed to jump, he'll make himself extremely vulnerable, as Anakin had proven on Mustafar; Maul is rather fast and deadly, and could take Obi-Wan's jump to his advantage by cutting him up. Bye bye Obi.
Obi-Wan won't have the necessary time to sidetep an attack; remember, he's blocked to every single direction. Maul's double saber can strike either way, and remember there's still TPM Obi-Wan who can pose a threat to Obi-Wan. No, he won't be able to move an inch when three capable swordsman are attacking him.
Originally posted by Sidi-Boy
While that's a possibility, remember that if Obi-Wan is indeed to jump, he'll make himself extremely vulnerable, as Anakin had proven on Mustafar; Maul is rather fast and deadly, and could take Obi-Wan's jump to his advantage by cutting him up. Bye bye Obi.Obi-Wan won't have the necessary time to sidetep an attack; remember, he's blocked to every single direction. Maul's double saber can strike either way, and remember there's still TPM Obi-Wan who can pose a threat to Obi-Wan. No, he won't be able to move an inch when three capable swordsman are attacking him.
as seasoned a jedi as rots obi wan is, its almost impossible that he would let them surround him in battle
Originally posted by Sidi-Boy
While that's a possibility, remember that if Obi-Wan is indeed to jump, he'll make himself extremely vulnerable, as Anakin had proven on Mustafar; Maul is rather fast and deadly, and could take Obi-Wan's jump to his advantage by cutting him up. Bye bye Obi.Obi-Wan won't have the necessary time to sidetep an attack; remember, he's blocked to every single direction. Maul's double saber can strike either way, and remember there's still TPM Obi-Wan who can pose a threat to Obi-Wan. No, he won't be able to move an inch when three capable swordsman are attacking him.
This is definite IF they can surround him.
But as Man of Christ said:
"as seasoned a jedi as rots obi wan is, its almost impossible that he would let them surround him in battle"