Originally posted by llagrok
Chopping off an arm isn't slowing him down?From the looks of that fight, the destroyer would've torn a single celestial pieces. It's not like Odin was beaten by a single celestial, he was beaten by the host.
Odin animating the destroyer is still < a celestial...
and no, it did not take the entire host to beat Odin as well..
You do realize that being born from Eternity is one of the possible origins of the Celestials, but is in fact, not confirmed?
Also Quan, the 4th Host would not beat the Spectre "easily", they may ko him and temporarily stop his onslaught but they would be unable to destroy him and would be overpowered eventually spending incredible amounts of power just to reach that goal, certainly more energy than that needed to put down Tiamut -who stalemated the Second host by himself and was defeated by using a celestial weapon-.
Marvel magic is also weaker than DC magic, Odin would need to be boosted by the whole Vishanti and every pantheon just to reach the amount of power that Shazam had, and even then he may not have enough.
Originally posted by BentleyI think the 4th host would slaughter him. I read the whole arc and saw that he was impressive but comparing him to the Celestials is laughable to me.
You do realize that being born from Eternity is one of the possible origins of the Celestials, but is in fact, not confirmed?Also Quan, the 4th Host would not beat the Spectre "easily", they may ko him and temporarily stop his onslaught but they would be unable to destroy him and would be overpowered eventually spending incredible amounts of power just to reach that goal, certainly more energy than that needed to put down Tiamut -who stalemated the Second host by himself and was defeated by using a celestial weapon-.
Marvel magic is also weaker than DC magic, Odin would need to be boosted by the whole Vishanti and every pantheon just to reach the amount of power that Shazam had, and even then he may not have enough.
Dc magic is greater than marvel maigc but marvel cosmics are greater than dc cosmics.
Odin amped himself and couldnt do a thing to the Celestials. I think he would indeed hurt the Spectre but I never said he would win.
I'm going to throw my two cents out there and say that the scan alone doesn't prove that Celestials are aspects of Eternity. First of all, no bios have ever declared such relationship as a fact, nor there is a long story of the Celestials interacting with Eternity closer than to any cosmic.
The Celestials also have tech, and Eternity itself has never alluded to any tech or whatsoever, where did this tech came from or how does it relates to the universe is simply inconsistent from what has been shown of Eternity. Then we have the whole "individuality" aspect of the race, Tiamut opposes the other Celestials, they grant Apocalypse their tech and interact with races and abstracts -such as the Watchers and the group of Diablery, Tenebrous and Aegis-, a head of one of them floating around. In many showings they are depicted as an ancient race and there is no shown intention of they representing a race.
Finally, the scan could be interpreted as a certain manner of speaking from Eternity, we can pick the Celestials as if they were a literal manifestation of something, or we can believe its implied that their actions were motivated by the same meditation or simply speak about the orders in with events happened -first I thought about eating and then a hotdog salesman passed in front of me-.
Its likely than the author of that book believed that the "aspect of Eternity" interpretation of the Celestials was cannon and used it as a fact, when comic history show no relationship with the characters. I say that nearly every showing disregarding such order counts more than one dialog in a book that its not ever considered essential Celestial reading.
Originally posted by Bentley
I'm going to throw my two cents out there and say that the scan alone doesn't prove that Celestials are aspects of Eternity. First of all, no bios have ever declared such relationship as a fact, nor there is a long story of the Celestials interacting with Eternity closer than to any cosmic.The Celestials also have tech, and Eternity itself has never alluded to any tech or whatsoever, where did this tech came from or how does it relates to the universe is simply inconsistent from what has been shown of Eternity. Then we have the whole "individuality" aspect of the race, Tiamut opposes the other Celestials, they grant Apocalypse their tech and interact with races and abstracts -such as the Watchers and the group of Diablery, Tenebrous and Aegis-, a head of one of them floating around. In many showings they are depicted as an ancient race and there is no shown intention of they representing a race.
Finally, the scan could be interpreted as a certain manner of speaking from Eternity, we can pick the Celestials as if they were a literal manifestation of something, or we can believe its implied that their actions were motivated by the same meditation or simply speak about the orders in with events happened -first I thought about eating and then a hotdog salesman passed in front of me-.
Its likely than the author of that book believed that the "aspect of Eternity" interpretation of the Celestials was cannon and used it as a fact, when comic history show no relationship with the characters. I say that nearly every showing disregarding such order counts more than one dialog in a book that its not ever considered essential Celestial reading.
I hate the aspect of Eternity concept.
Spectre was slowed down by PIS. There are no PIS on the boards, that's why Superman speedblitzes Spider-man within the first second. No conversations before the battle.
Aspects of Eternity works like cells in a human body. Except there's a infinite amount of them, and they're all shaped like the body they're an aspect of.
