Can Anakin be redeemed?

Started by JediRobin234 pages

Can Anakin be redeemed?

Really, After killing younglings and many Jedi as a darkside person, Could he really be saved? Its like, all he had to do is kill the emperor in ROTJ, then hes automatically saved and forgaved once Luke was saved.
If Vader didn't turn to the goodside, he would have died anyway along with Luke because the Rebels would have bloewn up the Death Star anyway.
My thoughts are, you can go ahead and be the most evil dude in the world and cause harm for thousands of people, but all it takes is a simple forgiveness (Kill a Palpatine) before you die to redeem yourself for the afterlife.

thats not it at all. The jedi believe that noone is unredemable, and therefore, anyone who turns to the lightside are on the lightside. That simple.

the entire point is that anakin brought balance to the force.... the jedi thought that meant he would go on and immediately kill all the sith.
He did that eventually; but the rest is unclear: perhaps there needed to be an equal amount of jedi & sith (OB1-Yoda vs Vader-Palpatine, after OB1 died Luke took over; so a more litteral balance in the force and thus the death of younglins was necessary) OR he just had to kill the sith, but failed at first but stil did it in the end. Basicly, bringing balance to the force is still one of the "best things to do" but as you see in the end of Return of the Jedi: they replaced Anakin with the new one (Hayden Christensen) because it is said by yoda that once you go down the dark side, "forever will it dominate you".

Re: Can Anakin be redeemed?

Originally posted by JediRobin23
Really, After killing younglings and many Jedi as a darkside person, Could he really be saved? Its like, all he had to do is kill the emperor in ROTJ, then hes automatically saved and forgaved once Luke was saved.
If Vader didn't turn to the goodside, he would have died anyway along with Luke because the Rebels would have bloewn up the Death Star anyway.
My thoughts are, you can go ahead and be the most evil dude in the world and cause harm for thousands of people, but all it takes is a simple forgiveness (Kill a Palpatine) before you die to redeem yourself for the afterlife.

Well you can't do all of the bad stuff always knowing you will redeem yourself one day. I think Lucas borrowed this bit from Christianity. No matter how bad you are, if you truly become saved you are okay.

lucas showed anakin as good guy in the last episode...so hes redeemed in georgies eyes...guess thats that...lol

Re: Can Anakin be redeemed?

Originally posted by JediRobin23
Really, After killing younglings and many Jedi as a darkside person, Could he really be saved? Its like, all he had to do is kill the emperor in ROTJ, then hes automatically saved and forgaved once Luke was saved.
If Vader didn't turn to the goodside, he would have died anyway along with Luke because the Rebels would have bloewn up the Death Star anyway.
My thoughts are, you can go ahead and be the most evil dude in the world and cause harm for thousands of people, but all it takes is a simple forgiveness (Kill a Palpatine) before you die to redeem yourself for the afterlife.
I think you're confusing "redemption " with "forgiveness." You can truly repent your actions, the question is will others forgive you for them.

And it's been argued that the only reason the Rebels broke through the defences at the DS were because Palp's mental willpower over his men dropped after Anakin hucked him over the railing.

Palps mental power over his men?....nah....he used other means to control "his men" political means...he used big guns...lol

Burp

gazoonheit......or is that just fer sneezes...lol

Your call, mate.

Anakin was redeemed in ROTJ.

If you can seek forgiveness,why couldn't you be saved?

If you're forgiven for your sins, then that generally means you've been redeemed (cause otherwise you'd simply keep sinning). But it is possible to be redeemed and not have others forgive you for your past actions.

Anakin was redeemed by sacrificing himself, but Leia still didn't forgive him for blowing up Alderaan, torturing Han etc.

Luke seemed to forgive him.

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
Palps mental power over his men?....nah....he used other means to control "his men" political means...he used big guns...lol

It has been stated in the novels that Palpatine used battle meditation to improve his soldiers' abilities in combat. When he died, his troops efficiancy immediately plummetted. Thrawn comments that they were fighting like cadets.

What novels?

I think the major point is that "the force" "forgave" him. And he found back to the light side.

Bardock!

Originally posted by queeq
What novels?

The Return of the Jedi novelization confirms that Palpatine's death wasn't just an issue of morale; his death threw the Force into this state of flux and the dominating mental power he had over the Imperial Fleet and Armies was gone, and that sudden loss caused them to get curbstomped in a fight they, technically, still should have won.

Grand Admiral Thrawn confirms it later in Heir to the Empire.

Originally posted by queeq
Luke seemed to forgive him.
Well he was always a sap for family moments.