Let me just say, you can speculate about Thanos' upgrades all you want, but until he shows feats like Odin (destroying galaxies as a side effect of his battles and shaking the universe and such) he's going to lose.
(BTW Don't bring up Celestial Quest since it was mostly Death's power that shook the universe that time)
Originally posted by Endless MikeFalse. The one writer who tackled the fight had them far closer so bringing up a feat from early on doesn't change the way these two matched up against each other in a comic.
Let me just say, you can speculate about Thanos' upgrades all you want, but until he shows feats like Odin (destroying galaxies as a side effect of his battles and shaking the universe and such) he's going to lose.(BTW Don't bring up Celestial Quest since it was mostly Death's power that shook the universe that time)
Originally posted by BlanketFrom what I REMEMBER as i read it months ago the Surfer clearly outclassed him. I see what your point here is. The difference is this Odin respected Thanos and was trying to kill him. Their fight also was destroying asgard and wasn't only a few panels. Surfer didn't want to harm Nova and took him outside of Galactus' range so he could talk to him without alerting the big guy. This is why you cannot compare the two fights at all.
Quan.Who won when they fought
Surfer or Novaforce Nova?
Originally posted by snyper1982He didn't lose the fight. I said he was losing the fight. My opinion is backed up my the actual fight in the comic itself while yours isn't.
It is pathetic that your fanboyism is so strong that you can't admit he lost the fight. You can't say the fight didn't end. It DID end, I know this by virtue of the fact that they are no longer fighting. It just didn't end with a ko or death. Just because it didn't end with a KO or death doesn't mean that you can't pick a winner, you just don't want to. The fight they had, regardless of how it ended, was with a victory for Odin, as he was completely unharmed, Thanos wasn't. Fights end without a KO or death pretty damned often. Regardless, it is useless debating with you, because as other people have said, you only listen to people who share your opinion, if they don't you completely ignore any point they make, and when you run out of feasable arguments, you will come out with this great debating tactic, "that's just your opinion."
I say that because most of this stuff is opinion based while looking over the source material. Anyone saying Thanos lost isn't looking at their fight from infinity watch 25.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't lose the fight. I said he was losing the fight. My opinion is backed up my the actual fight in the comic itself while yours isn't.I say that because most of this stuff is opinion based while looking over the source material. Anyone saying Thanos lost isn't looking at their fight from infinity watch 25.
yes thanos did lose. looking at thaos, he looked like shit. sure he regenerated or whatever, the fact of the mater is thanos still looked like shit while odin didn't even have a scratch on him and looked as fresh as a daisy.
if there was a round two, odin would still look like a daisy and thanos again would look like shit. sure, he'd regenerate but he'd still look like shit.
in the end, thanos loses, odin wins.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoYes, so Thanos was losing, but didn't lose the fight.
yes thanos did lose. looking at thaos, he looked like shit. sure he regenerated or whatever, the fact of the mater is thanos still looked like shit while odin didn't even have a scratch on him and looked as fresh as a daisy.if there was a round two, odin would still look like a daisy and thanos again would look like shit. sure, he'd regenerate but he'd still look like shit.
in the end, thanos loses, odin wins.
I think after his upgrade Thanos definitely takes this based on the Maker/Galactus showings.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, so Thanos was losing, but didn't lose the fight.I think after his upgrade Thanos definitely takes this based on the Maker/Galactus showings.
losing = will lose = a lose
lets try some real world logic
UFC
fighter A is getting shit stomped by fighter B and is losing. The ref stops the fight. so because the fight was stopped, Fighter A doesnt lose? of couse he loses, win awarded to figher B loss to fighter A cos if the fight continued fighter A would be wtf beating bloody
Boxing
Many Pacquia and cotto fight. fight was stopped on the last round coz cotto was losing. by your logic, cotto didn't lose coz the fight was stopped. buyt guess what, cotto lost and pacquia took the win.
thanos lost!
again, by your logic, the fantastic 4 are galactus leve. hell, even classic thor is galactus level coz he made galactus run away. using your logic, classic thor made galactus run away hence he can take on odin. which means kt is above skyfather level andd rkt is eternity level 😛
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoI have seen fights turn around before. See sinestro vs. Mongul.
losing = will lose = a loselets try some real world logic
UFC
fighter A is getting shit stomped by fighter B and is losing. The ref stops the fight. so because the fight was stopped, Fighter A doesnt lose? of couse he loses, win awarded to figher B loss to fighter A cos if the fight continued fighter A would be wtf beating bloodyBoxing
Many Pacquia and cotto fight. fight was stopped on the last round coz cotto was losing. by your logic, cotto didn't lose coz the fight was stopped. buyt guess what, cotto lost and pacquia took the win.thanos lost!
again, by your logic, the fantastic 4 are galactus leve. hell, even classic thor is galactus level coz he made galactus run away. using your logic, classic thor made galactus run away hence he can take on odin. which means kt is above skyfather level andd rkt is eternity level 😛
You can also have a matt hughes beat penn after almost tapping a round before.
Thanos has become more powerful since their standoff battle. It's quite obvious he wins in the rematch.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have seen fights turn around before. See sinestro vs. Mongul.You can also have a matt hughes beat penn after almost tapping a round before.
Thanos has become more powerful since their standoff battle. It's quite obvious he wins in the rematch.
turn around different from stoppage. no stoppage means that the win could still go eitherway. stoppage is done to prevent serious injury to the loser. in this case, thanos would have been beaten to a pulp.
no its not, theres no gauge as to what kind of upgrade he got. he could have gotten a wtf upgrade and is now above skyfather or for all we know, the uprade just adds 5 tons to his lifting maximum.
until thanos can top odin's feats, he's never beating odin.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoIf the fight continued in the manner it had been going.
turn around different from stoppage. no stoppage means that the win could still go eitherway. stoppage is done to prevent serious injury to the loser. in this case, thanos would have been beaten to a pulp.no its not, theres no gauge as to what kind of upgrade he got. he could have gotten a wtf upgrade and is now above skyfather or for all we know, the uprade just adds 5 tons to his lifting maximum.
until thanos can top odin's feats, he's never beating odin.
If you ignore the Galactus/Maker showings and pretend he didn't get more powerful I guess you can make a case.
Odin tried once and failed to even ko Thanos. His luck runs out against a more powerful titan than he faced.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If the fight continued in the manner it had been going.If you ignore the Galactus/Maker showings and pretend he didn't get more powerful I guess you can make a case.
Odin tried once and failed to even ko Thanos. His luck runs out against a more powerful titan than he faced.
and your assuming that what odin dished out at thanos is all he's got? surely you jest. odin may have gotten serious but in now way was he going all out. going all out would be shacking galaxies.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. The one writer who tackled the fight had them far closer so bringing up a feat from early on doesn't change the way these two matched up against each other in a comic.From what I REMEMBER as i read it months ago the Surfer clearly outclassed him. I see what your point here is. The difference is this Odin respected Thanos and was trying to kill him. Their fight also was destroying asgard and wasn't only a few panels. Surfer didn't want to harm Nova and took him outside of Galactus' range so he could talk to him without alerting the big guy. This is why you cannot compare the two fights at all.
He didn't lose the fight. I said he was losing the fight. My opinion is backed up my the actual fight in the comic itself while yours isn't.
I say that because most of this stuff is opinion based while looking over the source material. Anyone saying Thanos lost isn't looking at their fight from infinity watch 25.
Then why are you the only one saying Thanos didn't lose that fight?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, so Thanos was losing, but didn't lose the fight.I think after his upgrade Thanos definitely takes this based on the Maker/Galactus showings.
Bull. If your losing a fight when the fight is stopped, you lost, period. You can only judge a fight based on what you see, and from what we saw, Odin was clearly outclassing Thanos.
Originally posted by snyper1982Don't you know there are 3 forms of Thanos
Then why are you the only one saying Thanos didn't lose that fight?
preupgrade Thanos= trans level that doesn't lose fights just gets tossed around for fun b/c he is into S/M XXX from skyfathers.
upgraded Thanos= My favorite version Skyfather level now b/c he he is upgrade so he can beat up on Odin now. 😱
Quan's Thanos= This 1 replaces either one of the other 2 when Quan enters the athread. Thanos is upgraded to chuck norris level of omg pawnage
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, so Thanos was losing, but didn't lose the fight.I think after his upgrade Thanos definitely takes this based on the Maker/Galactus showings.
That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. He was losing when the fight was stopped, so he lost. Why is that so hard for you to grasp. Oh right, because you like Thanos....
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have seen fights turn around before. See sinestro vs. Mongul.You can also have a matt hughes beat penn after almost tapping a round before.
Thanos has become more powerful since their standoff battle. It's quite obvious he wins in the rematch.
It's only obvious to you quan...
Originally posted by quanchi112
If the fight continued in the manner it had been going.If you ignore the Galactus/Maker showings and pretend he didn't get more powerful I guess you can make a case.
Odin tried once and failed to even ko Thanos. His luck runs out against a more powerful titan than he faced.
But the fight didn't continue. It was stopped. Why you are basing your entire claim that he didn't lose on a hypothetical point, I will never understand, but it is piss poor debating tactics.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Don't you know there are 3 forms of Thanospreupgrade Thanos= trans level that doesn't lose fights just gets tossed around for fun b/c he is into S/M XXX from skyfathers.
upgraded Thanos= My favorite version Skyfather level now b/c he he is upgrade so he can beat up on Odin now. 😱
Quan's Thanos= This 1 replaces either one of the other 2 when Quan enters the athread. Thanos is upgraded to chuck norris level of omg pawnage
LOL
Originally posted by gogogadgetgoThen why would you act like if he doesn't do this then he isn't going all out?
why ask me? i dont know 😆
Originally posted by snyper1982I am not the only one who said he didn't lose. The comic backs me up. Show me where he loses then.
Then why are you the only one saying Thanos didn't lose that fight?
Originally posted by snyper1982Because the fight hadn't finished so it's speculation as to who would have won the fight.
That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. He was losing when the fight was stopped, so he lost. Why is that so hard for you to grasp. Oh right, because you like Thanos....
Originally posted by snyper1982I don't use double standards. The fight was going in Odin's favor when it was stopped. Any notion of Thanos losing is in your mind alone.
But the fight didn't continue. It was stopped. Why you are basing your entire claim that he didn't lose on a hypothetical point, I will never understand, but it is piss poor debating tactics.
Originally posted by DarkOdinThe comics support my theories.
Don't you know there are 3 forms of Thanospreupgrade Thanos= trans level that doesn't lose fights just gets tossed around for fun b/c he is into S/M XXX from skyfathers.
upgraded Thanos= My favorite version Skyfather level now b/c he he is upgrade so he can beat up on Odin now. 😱
Quan's Thanos= This 1 replaces either one of the other 2 when Quan enters the athread. Thanos is upgraded to chuck norris level of omg pawnage