Originally posted by quanchi112 Ok lets begin here shall we.His staff contains the power over this many red suns.
How many red suns did it take to totally depower Prime again?
Thats great and all. But this isnt sc Superman-prime. This is amped Superman-prime. The same one that survived a universal explosion. Confirmed by this:
And in response to your gog scans:
He can be speedblitzed:
And if the red sun energy didnt affect normal superman two times, I doubt it will affect Superman-prime:
Originally posted by Sirius77Again your scan does not prove he survived on his own. A monitor easily shielded and saved his universe. Same monitors that were being overpowered by top tiers from the multi.
Thats great and all. But this isnt sc Superman-prime. This is amped Superman-prime. The same one that survived a universal explosion. Confirmed by this:And in response to your gog scans:
He can be speedblitzed:
And if the red sun energy didnt affect normal superman two times, I doubt it will affect Superman-prime:
The first blast on Supes was heat vision which isnt red solar energy itself its heat vision as explained on panel.
Did you leave out the part where Gog destroyed all of the weapons gathered from time to weaken him. He was weakened badly here because of this and was nowhere near at full strength. Its like me posting a scan after Prime went through the red sun and gauging his power.
Gog was toying with everyone and was easily quicker than any Superman. I already proved how quickly he can react especially when facing just one opponent.
Again when he wanted to kill Superman he oneshotted him to death a more powerful version in kc Supes as well. of course Superman is going to live but he proved he could easily snuff him out over a thousand times.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again your scan does not prove he survived on his own. A monitor easily shielded and saved his universe. Same monitors that were being overpowered by top tiers from the multi.The first blast on Supes was heat vision which isnt red solar energy itself its heat vision as explained on panel.
Did you leave out the part where Gog destroyed all of the weapons gathered from time to weaken him. He was weakened badly here because of this and was nowhere near at full strength. Its like me posting a scan after Prime went through the red sun and gauging his power.
Gog was toying with everyone and was easily quicker than any Superman. I already proved how quickly he can react especially when facing just one opponent.
Again when he wanted to kill Superman he oneshotted him to death a more powerful version in kc Supes as well. of course Superman is going to live but he proved he could easily snuff him out over a thousand times.
Sadly, the only thing that the moniter saved was a plant. Everything else was destroyed except for he, the plant, and Superman-prime. That same moniter in final crisis was exiled for his failure to save his universe. The time trapper found Superman-prime and slingshotted him to the legion universe.
The scans where regular superman is getting blasted are from the staff. The heat vision scan said above it that he can be speedblitzed. I said nothing about red sun energy. Gog said in one of your scans that he had the energy of a dozen red suns in his staff. Unless it was a hyperbole.
No. The power of his staff has nothing to do with his own power. Thus, when he is weakened, the red sun energy is coming from said staff will not be affected. Also, he was speedblitzed several times in the scans that I gave you before he was weakened.
And superman-prime has proved that he is quicker, by not only tagging a flash, but speedblitzing three, then oneshotting one in sc. This was when he was not amped.
Superman-prime could snuff superman out as well if he had a staff that contained the power of a dozen red suns.
Originally posted by Sirius77It wasnt hyperbole. He was oneshotting Supermen and more powerful Supermen with ease. One red sun can totally depower Prime but this guy has the power of twelve in his staff. He ends this anytime he wants to.
Sadly, the only thing that the moniter saved was a plant. Everything else was destroyed except for he, the plant, and Superman-prime. That same moniter in final crisis was exiled for his failure to save his universe. The time trapper found Superman-prime and slingshotted him to the legion universe.The scans where regular superman is getting blasted are from the staff. The heat vision scan said above it that he can be speedblitzed. I said nothing about red sun energy. Gog said in one of your scans that he had the energy of a dozen red suns in his staff. Unless it was a hyperbole.
No. The power of his staff has nothing to do with his own power. Thus, when he is weakened, the red sun energy is coming from said staff will not be affected. Also, he was speedblitzed several times in the scans that I gave you before he was weakened.
And superman-prime has proved that he is quicker, by not only tagging a flash, but speedblitzing three, then oneshotting one in sc. This was when he was not amped.
Superman-prime could snuff superman out as well if he had a staff that contained the power of a dozen red suns.
The staff is his heavy hitter. He was weakened along wit it when he destroyed all those powerful items a.ka. plot devices to give the heroes a chance. Supes survived when he was weakened obviously because he was killing Superma easily with one blast. The guy took out Mxy while Prime needed someone else to depower him. Gog took him out as an afterthought.
the point is Prime doesnt have the staff its Gog and in his power set. Its like saying if Superman had Thors hammer he would crush Thor. 😉
Gog for the win
It might not be canon, i am not sure, but they explained how red sun radiation effects superman(batman/superman i think), and it basicly stops him from using his stores of energy...so i dont see supes winning this....now if its not canon, well i give gog the majority...but i would not argue the point
Who messed up the page with these huge scans....jeeez!
Close fight
Got definitely should be able to harm prime but it wouldn’t be an easy task. However, considering his staff does hold the power of many many red suns, I’d say he has a huge advantage. I’m unsure if Prime can be depowered as easy he did in IC. More likely, he also resistant to it.
I’d say 6/10 Gog
I’d like to hear what people think of the red sun weakness is removed