Originally posted by The Great GalenDoes he lose a single matchup?
I've seen more low balling and deliberate bias agaisnt Supes on this board then I have seen against any other character to be honest. I think the issue is people would rather debate powersets and keep feats a a distance 3rd, in this particular example I feel genis is extremly overrated(as in he can take kingdom gog LMAO)but regardless, he does take the majority.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
I've seen more low balling and deliberate bias agaisnt Supes on this board then I have seen against any other character to be honest. I think the issue is people would rather debate powersets and keep feats a a distance 3rd, in this particular example I feel genis is extremly overrated(as in he can take kingdom gog LMAO)but regardless, he does take the majority.
And i have seen more superman fanboys thinking supes physical strength's can power through (ZERG) anything. IF i remember correctly your the one that said superman had a chance against Odin. I do agree with you there are alot of people that bash supes but there are more people that butter him up to more then he really is . Supes is a brawler. He has no real abilities othjer then beating things up. He has no matter manipulation abilities. No magical powers. No wepons of any sort. He has nothing but pure brute strength and raw speed. Hes a excellent brawl among the best D.C. has to offer.
But nothing more.
Originally posted by zeel
And i have seen more superman fanboys thinking supes physical strength's can power through (ZERG) anything. IF i remember correctly your the one that said superman had a chance against Odin. I do agree with you there are alot of people that bash supes but there are more people that butter him up to more then he really is . Supes is a brawler. He has no real abilities othjer then beating things up. He has no matter manipulation abilities. No magical powers. No wepons of any sort. He has nothing but pure brute strength and raw speed. Hes a excellent brawl among the best D.C. has to offer.But nothing more.
Vehemently disagree with your entire post. 👇 Galen may be a fanboy.
But you are drastically lowballing Superman. Never assume magic or weapons or matter/energy manip gets you a win against him. Because there are thousands of examples that prove that wrong. And he's quite abit more than a brawler. No other character makes such incredible use of a so-called limited powerset. He is more than raw speed and brute strength.
As for Superman vs. Odin, I am the one who said he'd have a good shot against him with a sundip. 🙄 And I could easily have claimed he'd win outright and be justified. 😉
Originally posted by zeel
Supes is a brawler. He has no real abilities othjer then beating things up. He has no matter manipulation abilities. No magical powers. No wepons of any sort. He has nothing but pure brute strength and raw speed. Hes a excellent brawl among the best D.C. has to offer.But nothing more.
So the various visions (heat, force, telescopic, xray, soul, etc.)
Flight.
Ice breath.
Torquasm Vo/Rao and the abilities they bring (enhanced healing, power stealing, reality warp, etc.)
Enhanced healing.
Illusion casting.
Super hearing.
Able to see and hear the EM spectrum.
Sonics.
Intangibility.
Invisibility.
Don't exist?
Originally posted by AvlonDon't forget Masonry Vision, his greatest asset ✅
So the various visions (heat, force, telescopic, xray, soul, etc.)Flight.
Ice breath.
Torquasm Vo/Rao and the abilities they bring (enhanced healing, power stealing, reality warp, etc.)
Enhanced healing.
Illusion casting.
Super hearing.
Able to see and hear the EM spectrum.
Sonics.
Intangibility.
Invisibility.
Don't exist?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Vehemently disagree with your entire post. 👇 Galen may be a fanboy.But you are drastically lowballing Superman. Never assume magic or weapons or matter/energy manip gets you a win against him. Because there are thousands of examples that prove that wrong. And he's quite abit more than a brawler. No other character makes such incredible use of a so-called limited powerset. He is more than raw speed and brute strength.
You talk as if superman is a real person, hes not. Those thousand's of examples made D.C. alot of cash thats why he won them. Supes wins fights all the time he shouldnt. And why is he much more then a brawler? Sundipped or not. He has the same weaknesses and same abilities. He's just a amped version of himself. PLease dont start posting Physical strength feats regaurdless of how impressive they are. It takes more then strength to win a fight. If superman was written on a unbias level hed lose a hell of alot more often then he does. I look forward to the day were D.C. gives superman abilities like eradicator. make him a more well balanced hero and make some of his rediculous feats actually look believale. And sundipping is considered a amp if you compare a sundipped supes to say like captian marvel, you need to compare him to a amped captian marvel. If you do not your lowballing captian marvel and putting him in a situation thats not winable. The DOV version of captian marvel vs a sundipped supes would be a great fight indeed. I know sometimes it might look like i down supes alot. HE and captian marvel and thor for that matter are among my favorite toons.
As for Superman vs. Odin, [b]I
am the one who said he'd have a good shot against him with a sundip. 🙄 And I could easily have claimed he'd win outright and be justified. 😉 [/B]
Originally posted by Avlon
So the various visions (heat, force, telescopic, xray, soul, etc.)Flight.
Ice breath.
Torquasm Vo/Rao and the abilities they bring (enhanced healing, power stealing, reality warp, etc.)
Enhanced healing.
Illusion casting.
Super hearing.
Able to see and hear the EM spectrum.
Sonics.
Intangibility.
Invisibility.
Don't exist?
wasnt aware that regular supes had the ability to become invisible at will OR intangible for that matter. And as for the ability to create illusions well i wasnt not aware of that either. As for the rest such as ice breath ( this is nothing new or important in a fight. Heat vision is nothing to types like captian marvel. And flight, well lots of bricks can fly. Super hearing 😕 Not going to win ya that fight there. The enhanced healing goes with the physical factor. There are other power houses that have a healing factor thats greatly increased to.
Now eradicator thats what superman should be. that guys is everything supes is combined with sulver surfer.
Originally posted by zeelYou act like Superman is Luke Cage with a wimpy body shield.
wasnt aware that regular supes had the ability to become invisible at will OR intangibe for that matter. And as for the ability to create illusions well i wasnt not aware of that either. As for the rest such as ice breath ( this is nothing new or important in a fight. Heat vision is nothing to types like captian marvel. And flight, well lots of bricks can fly. Super hearing 😕 Not going to win ya that fight there. The enhanced healing goes with the physical factor. There are other power houses that have a healing factor thats greatly increased to.Now eradicator thats what superman should be. that guys is everything supes is combined with sulver surfer.