http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/8159382
Breaks it down nicely without leaning toward one candidate.
You have to click on the Obama link to the right.
http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/8159382
Breaks it down nicely without leaning toward one candidate.
You have to click on the Obama link to the right.
Originally posted by DigiMark007I liked that, it was comprehensive.
http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/8159382Breaks it down nicely without leaning toward one candidate.
You have to click on the Obama link to the right.
I'd encourage people to play VP Madness! at http://cqpolitics.com. It list all top candidates and allows you to vote for your favorites.
Originally posted by lord xyzWould have ended what? The CIA? Cuba? Nuclear War? The Soviet Union? The Bay of Pigs Invasion was authorized by Kennedy, modified by the Kennedy Administration from a holdover plan from the previous Admin, the late canceling of a second air raid, considered crucial to the plan, has been attributed to Kennedy by some (it has also been attributed to Secretary of State at the time iirc), overall the botch-up and the consequences culminating in the Cuban Missile Crisis is often seen as indicative of an inexperience-derived foreign policy gaffe.
Okay, but Kennedy had very strong disliking for the CIA and would've ended it, had he not been shot.In any case, the Bay Of Pigs had nothing to do with Kennedy, they did it against his orders.
My source is an historian known as John Hankey.
Here's a video about Kennedy and the CIA: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=818267521031292324
Your posts are a string of non-sequiturs and your source from what I can find is either a railroad historian or the same person who writes on Rense and thinks George Bush had JFK Jr. assassinated.
Originally posted by lord xyz
In any case, the Bay Of Pigs had nothing to do with Kennedy, they did it against his orders.Here's a video about Kennedy and the CIA: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=818267521031292324
... Uh huh.
This is why you should check multiple sources before claiming knowledge of a particular subject.
You can find anything on the internet
Originally posted by xmarksthespotwould've ended the CIA.
Would have ended what? The CIA? Cuba? Nuclear War? The Soviet Union? The Bay of Pigs Invasion was authorized by Kennedy, modified by the Kennedy Administration from a holdover plan from the previous Admin, the late canceling of a second air raid, considered crucial to the plan, has been attributed to Kennedy by some (it has also been attributed to Secretary of State at the time iirc), overall the botch-up and the consequences culminating in the Cuban Missile Crisis is often seen as indicative of an inexperience-derived foreign policy gaffe.Your posts are a string of non-sequiturs and your source from what I can find is either a railroad historian or the same person who writes on Rense and thinks George Bush had JFK Jr. assassinated.
And yes, George Bush did have JFK Jr. assassinated, or one of his friends did, anyway.
I don't think David Icke nor Alex Jones nor Jeff Rense nor John Hankey is necessarily stupid, I think they're somewhat smart in that it takes at least some level business acumen to peddle bullshit to fools.
He is however a conspiracy theorist with little credibility, and citing some ridiculous video about Bushes killing Kennedies to support a bizarre notion that Kennedy and his Administration had nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs Fiasco and that his actions during it somehow prevented Nuclear War are a waste of my time.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotSo you admit you're close minded.
I don't think David Icke nor Alex Jones nor Jeff Rense nor John Hankey is necessarily stupid, I think they're somewhat smart in that it takes at least some level business acumen to peddle bullshit to fools.He is however a conspiracy theorist with little credibility, and citing some ridiculous video about Bushes killing Kennedies to support a bizarre notion that Kennedy and his Administration had nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs Fiasco and that his actions during it somehow prevented Nuclear War are a waste of my time.
It's interesting that you group him with Alex Jones and David Icke, John Hankey is not some nut on the internet. He taught history for 20 years and isn't out to make a profit; his videos are free on google video.
First watch the video, then you can have an opinion on it.
Originally posted by lord xyzHooray for Deano-lite/ushomewannabe, not being credulous is not the same as being closed-minded.
So you admit you're close minded.It's interesting that you group him with Alex Jones and David Icke, John Hankey is not some nut on the internet. He taught history for 20 years and isn't out to make a profit; his videos are free on google video.
First watch the video, then you can have an opinion on it.
The start of your video begins with Prison Planet TV, Alex Jones website. It states member's only video, with a subsequent FBI piracy warning ergo it is being shown illegally. Meanwhile I can find absolutely no record of any publications by any John Hankey in JSTOR, nor EBSCOhost, nor CSA Illumina. Except for one about railroads.
None of this validating your ridiculously simplistic and/or inaccurate descriptions of actions during the Bay of Pigs stopping Nuclear War.
For further lulz irony.
"Barack Obama - The Devil's Spawn"
By illustrious pre-eminent historian John Hankey:
http://www.rense.com/general80/spawn.htm
Oh and Prison Planet TV charges $5.95 per month.
And yes, apologies for sidetracking the topic.
On topic, it doesn't really seem like Clinton wants to be VP from what I've been reading, nor that Obama will bow to pressure and choose her.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
I think Obama has the diction of a five year old. But I guess I'm the only one on these boards, and just about the country right now, that thinks that.
Originally posted by inimalistI agree. I don't see what the big deal with him is, if it isn't that he is black.
all candidates dumb their speeches down to reach dumb people. they all do it. i just find it obnoxious that all of the sudden this is discovered and all fingers point to obama.
Originally posted by SchecterTrue. But any experiential allusions to JFK are relatively hollow nonetheless. Which is not to necessarily say he will be a good or bad President.
all candidates dumb their speeches down to reach dumb people. they all do it. i just find it obnoxious that all of the sudden this is discovered and all fingers point to obama.
Anyway, this should probably be in the Democratic Nomination thread, as should have the other aside on Kennedy perhaps.
Originally posted by SchecterFingers get pointed at Obama because the unwashed masses think he has the tongue and speaking ability of a god.
all candidates dumb their speeches down to reach dumb people. they all do it. i just find it obnoxious that all of the sudden this is discovered and all fingers point to obama.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
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