Zom/Strange vs Thanos

Originally posted by Raoul
and you'd be wrong. the marvel contingent has always outnumbered the dc one, and then there are plenty of neutrals...

you say people are dc biased just because they won't take wwh as gospel, which is what we call trolling.

most of the x-men. with a healthy dose of PIS and inaccurate writing...

Your opinion. The WW Hulk was that far above the mutants in this story. The whole purpose of the story was to show what Hulk was capable of with this level of anger.

While I'll agree that Sentry hasnt had the speed feats to justify it here, all he did was essentially was brawl. The guy has powers he hasnt even shown yet, but hes going to stand there and slug it out?

As for Blackbolt, yeah I didnt expect him to scream or yell, but to whisper then TURN AROUND AND WALK AWAY? Jeez thats a bit much. Thats like classic 1970's movie bad guy arrogance. Was he just going to leave the body there on his front step?

And yes I think the Reed prep was silly. Of all the things he couldve come up with, that was it? Hell he couldve told Sue to bring the jet around then hauled ass out of there and it wouldve been better prep.
Reed: "Alright, Im going to make a device that will calm the Hulk down by making him think Im Sentry."
Johnny: "And how long do you think hes going to fall for that? Indefinately?"
Reed: "I uh, havent thought that far ahead."

Marvel set out to make WWH the baddest of the bad. Its that simple

Doin the same with Red Hulk

Saying that, Thanos FTW

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Because Reed's prep was a joke. That my friends, is crap writing. Reed can't prep for the frigging Hulk? 🙄

Agreed, reeds prep was a joke. However prep is really unpredictable as it depends on what the character is prepping for. In reeds case, it seems he was only prepping to somehow calm down the hulk and not actually take him out . Indeed this was not the best strategy( or evn a good one) thus it failed woefully but there was no PIS in the actual fight against the FF

Originally posted by redhotrash
While I'll agree that Sentry hasnt had the speed feats to justify it here, all he did was essentially was brawl. The guy has powers he hasnt even shown yet, but hes going to stand there and slug it out?

As for Blackbolt, yeah I didnt expect him to scream or yell, but to whisper then TURN AROUND AND WALK AWAY? Jeez thats a bit much. Thats like classic 1970's movie bad guy arrogance. Was he just going to leave the body there on his front step?

And yes I think the Reed prep was silly. Of all the things he couldve come up with, that was it? Hell he couldve told Sue to bring the jet around then hauled ass out of there and it wouldve been better prep.
Reed: "Alright, Im going to make a device that will calm the Hulk down by making him think Im Sentry."
Johnny: "And how long do you think hes going to fall for that? Indefinately?"
Reed: "I uh, havent thought that far ahead."

As u said the sentry has got powers he has not shown. This is because the sentry really does not know the full extent of his own powers. Aside the times those hidden powers have come out he has never used them again. The sentry is mainly a charcter touted for his huge enrgy output and he used his enrgy on WWH throughout the entire fight. Therefore from what we have actually seen from the sentry it was not out of character. I cant remeber a sentry fight where he has actually fought too differently than in WWH.

I agree that bb walking away was quite stupid as well. Howvwer i think i shouldve explained earlier that what i reallly am talking about is hulk taking the whisper not being PIS. The actual fight to me is ambiguous as it was mostly off panel

Originally posted by quanchi112
I also hear a few on here call me marvel biased and cant believe I give a marvel character a win. So people have trolled me often.

in all honesty, quan, on several occasions you've given some, what i could call, 'shaky' arguments as to why the said character beats his opponent, and it tends to be in support of a marvel character over a dc one...

as for it being trolling, i don't know if i agree...

Your opinion. The WW Hulk was that far above the mutants in this story. The whole purpose of the story was to show what Hulk was capable of with this level of anger.

his strength being what it is, it didn't mean the x-men had to fight like idiots, which they did... it would have been more impressive if the x-men had been well-written and still lost, but they weren't...

Originally posted by Mr Master
I reviewed the issue,
you're actually right about the Amphora being in that other universe.

It didn't mention anything about pocket dimension though.

It was just another universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He didn't exactly say that, had he said that, it would've been more concrete.

What he said was:

"Even Dormammu, even Eternity himself could not stop Zom from ..."

He could be talking about his freedom.

could not stop Zom from ... escaping his prison?

On the other hand ... from what?

I'm also not buying that Eternity can't beat this chump if Dr Strange stalemated him.

Bottom line:

There's no way to tell for sure about anything one way or another.

As for Dr. Strange "stalemating" Zom, all Zom really did was summon the rings of ragaddor and chase Strange around a bit. After he realized the Tribunal was coming, he stopped the games and beat Strange with one mystical thunderclap.

Originally posted by Raoul
in all honesty, quan, on several occasions you've given some, what i could call, 'shaky' arguments as to why the said character beats his opponent, and it tends to be in support of a marvel character over a dc one...

as for it being trolling, i don't know if i agree...

his strength being what it is, it didn't mean the x-men had to fight like idiots, which they did... it would have been more impressive if the x-men had been well-written and still lost, but they weren't...

I disagree and dont think they fought like idiots. They all werent just punching and kicking him. But meh I always thought you didnt give WW Hulk the credit he deserved.