Euro 2008

xavi was always consistant. sometimes you have to look closely at what he is doing or it is easy to think' why the hell is he on the pitch for'

class player

Yeah, consistently doing nothing much.

It has already become the accepted view that nobody is daring to challenge, so whatever.

-AC

i could sue you for slander

I'm happy the team I bet on won! 😄 And that the Dutch got kicked out 😄

Originally posted by Jovan
I'm happy the team I bet on won! 😄 And that the Dutch got kicked out 😄

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't understand why, despite Torres having a bottle tournament, then scores a goal that could have been prevented with better defending, the commentators start lubing him up.

-AC

A goal which won the tournemant 🤣

Thats the mark of a true striker, important goals.

Torres had a pretty good tournament. He just happened to be forced to play a deeper role because of Villa and was frequently pulled off by a bigoted (not that that has anything to do with it) jackass of a manager. He was better than the Queen of Salford...

He didn't have a good tournament.

Considering him and Ronaldo were being touted as potential players of the tournament and top scorers to boot, they were horrid.

Torres kept getting subbed off because he isn't anywhere near their best striker. Villa and Guiza both did better than him.

-AC

important goals in pressure games are the true measure of top strikers.

European Nations cup FINAL was an important game, and Torres scored the winning goal.

Second best goalscorer in the Premier league as well, anyone with the ability to add 2+2 can realize he is a top striker

Second best to who? Ronaldo?

When did he become magically better than Adebayor?

He's not a top striker, he did nothing all tournament.

-AC

leeeaaavvvee it AC...'e aint waaaarrrfff it

its not a case of who´s worth it, rather how´s right.

I am🙂

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Second best to who? Ronaldo?

When did he become magically better than Adebayor?

He's not a top striker, he did nothing all tournament.

-AC

Both Adabayor and Torres scored 24 league goals

Originally posted by Almighty Bauer
I'm pretty sure had Torres scored less than Adebayor, few people would doubt he's better than the Togoan. Adebayor's goals were generally tap-ins made by good work by his entire team, and he still had an abnormally good season for his standads. Torres meanwhile practically carried LFC at times and scored many goals single-handedly.

Listen to yourself. Who got goal of the season? Adebayor scored lots of amazing goals. I can't remember one by Torres that wasn't kick and rush.

Torres had an abnormally good season by his standards. He never got more than 15 at Madrid.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Listen to yourself. Who got goal of the season? Adebayor scored lots of amazing goals. I can't remember one by Torres that wasn't kick and rush.

Torres had an abnormally good season by his standards. He never got more than 15 at Madrid.

the only really great goal in there is the one v marseille, the other ones were just good strikes and bad defending.

Originally posted by Kovacs86
A) Adebayor didn't have an abnormally good season?
B) Nah, Torres never scores good goals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjL7ycsWR-A

What striker did Terry and Ferdinand, unprompted, say gave them the most trouble?

Adebayor.

Torres is inconsequential if marked properly and covered properly.

Torres just isn't a better player.

-AC

Originally posted by Almighty Bauer
A) Adebayor didn't have an abnormally good season?
B) Nah, Torres never scores good goals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjL7ycsWR-A

A) As I said, Torres didn't? He had done shit all prior to last, and he benefited from being Liverpool's only other decent player. Gerrard on the ball, *tries through ball to Torres* x 10000.

None of those goals were that good. Show me one better than Adebayor versus Spurs, or Adebayor versus Newcastle. Pace and early shots against mediocre opposition. What happened against Man Utd? Rio brushed his little kick and rush aside like the cheap tactic it is. As did Gallas and Toure until Senderos got involved.

I understand you're a Liverpool fan, and this kind of thing is compulsory, but do try to be reasonable now and then.

I think some of the problem for Liverpool is that Torres being so young is impatient. He doesn't know how to deal with man marking and when he gets shut down for a bit he gets frustrated and starts pouting. At that point he's not even trying his hardest, which removes him from the game further. He's gotta learn to stick through it.

Being an Arsenal fan though, here's to hoping that never happens 🙂