Is 800 lbs really peak human strength?

According to Marvel, 800 lbs is the maximum that any non-superpowered human being can lift. But I don't think that's true. There were many instances in real life of strongmen doing feats better than lifting 800 lbs. Strongmen have lifted horses. One guy carried a horse on his shoulders! One guy could wrestle with an elephant, and another fought off a brown bear (all this stuff was taken from Wiki). I remember reading that Louis Cyr lifted 1,000 lbs on one finger. And restrained four horses. So should Captain America be able to lift more than 800 lbs?

In fact, I've always thought it being more about percentage- peak human=being able to lift 4 times his own weight. That's dependant on his own weight.
That's why the difference here.

The current strongest man in the world can dead-lift near 1,100lbs. So, I'd say 800lbs is a bit shy of peak human.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
The current strongest man in the world can dead-lift near 1,100lbs. So, I'd say 800lbs is a bit shy of peak human.

He used a bench shirt.

Originally posted by UKR
According to Marvel, 800 lbs is the maximum that any non-superpowered human being can lift. But I don't think that's true. There were many instances in real life of strongmen doing feats better than lifting 800 lbs. Strongmen have lifted horses. One guy carried a horse on his shoulders! One guy could wrestle with an elephant, and another fought off a brown bear (all this stuff was taken from Wiki). I remember reading that Louis Cyr lifted 1,000 lbs on one finger. And restrained four horses. So should Captain America be able to lift more than 800 lbs?

Wrong part of the forum and you know it. Cap max is probably around 2 tons.

Captain America can lift around a ton anyway. 😄

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Captain America can lift around a ton anyway. 😄

2 tons max. 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He used a bench shirt.

Wrong part of the forum and you know it. Cap max is probably around 2 tons.

I thought this might be the wrong place but I didn't know exactly where it was supposed to go.

Marvels strength stats are based on how much one can press overhead IIRC.

No man can lift 800lbs over his head (Although it can be benched, squatted or deadlifted by some peak level power lifters).

I'd say the deadlift is the one to go on, seeing as its basically just lifting a weight off the floor, and it's the one that you can do the most on. So 1000lbs would probably be a better peak human mark.

Edit- Well if what #1110 says is true, then we can discard my comments....

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
[B]He used a bench shirt.

A bench shirt for dead-lifting? I fail to see how that would benefit a dead-lifter? Are you sure you don't mean lifting straps?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
A bench shirt for dead-lifting? I fail to see how that would benefit a dead-lifter? Are you sure you don't mean lifting straps?

Meh I guess I was wrong I was thinking of a benchpress.

When marvel says lift/press; I always thought they meant pressing over ones head. In that case, 800lbs seems logical, as the world record for the clean and jerk is like 580lbs, and cap benching 2 tons is not out the the question.

Depends what muscle you use. Bench press is little over 1000lbs. Also dead lift is similar, but over head is little over 600lbs.

well the thing is to be this strong usually one as t ogive up other stats....I pretty sure the worlds strongest man would collpase on himself if he tried to run a mile

Paul Anderson

"His best lifts of his career include an amazing 1206 pound squat (still unmatched), a 627 pound bench press, a 380 pound one arm press, a 600 pound push press(pressing the weight overhead),and an incredible 575 pound jerk press(pulling the weight up and pressing it out). He made the Guinness Book of World Records for lifting 6,270 pounds in the backlift."

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211_fall2002.web.dir/Peter_Broady/Pages/Strongestman.htm

And this was before there was steroid use and benching shirts.

The 800lbs. is not how much Cap can bench. It's how much he can military press. As far as I know that's never been done or I don't even think it can be done.

As far as bench goes the record is over 1000lbs but that's with a suit. The record for a raw bench is like 715lbs. right now.

Cap is not superhuman folks.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The 800lbs. is not how much Cap can bench. It's how much he can military press. As far as I know that's never been done or I don't even think it can be done.

As far as bench goes the record is over 1000lbs but that's with a suit. The record for a raw bench is like 715lbs. right now.

Cap is not superhuman folks.

*sigh* Cap was doing bicep curls with 500lbs......he did that after doing Gymnastics.

He was also doing reps with 1100lbs and he was not breathing hard and did gymnastics straight afterwards.

Obscure factoids I had picked up over the years:
- The average man can 1 rep-max military press about 100 pounds.
- About 1 out of 100,000 men can military press their bodyweight.

Peak human strength these days I think would mean a strict military press of probably 400-500 pounds in the superheavyweight class (meaning the guys themselves typically weigh 300-350 lbs). The strongest classes pound for pound seem to be the somewhat lighter classes (about 198 - 148 lbs).

An 800 lb military press--especially at a bodyweight of 200-250 lbs--seems pretty darn superhuman to moi.

whoosh! Over my head.

Originally posted by UKR
According to Marvel, 800 lbs is the maximum that any non-superpowered human being can lift. But I don't think that's true. There were many instances in real life of strongmen doing feats better than lifting 800 lbs. Strongmen have lifted horses. One guy carried a horse on his shoulders! One guy could wrestle with an elephant, and another fought off a brown bear (all this stuff was taken from Wiki). I remember reading that Louis Cyr lifted 1,000 lbs on one finger. And restrained four horses. So should Captain America be able to lift more than 800 lbs?

Use the questions thread please....

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t346614.html