Neo vs Superman

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Are you genuinely lost to the rules of the Matrix?

Neo could turn Superman into kryptonite, turn the city into kryptonite, do anything necessary to beat Superman, and this is a fight that would HAVE to be in the Matrix, as with all of Neo's fights.

Outside of the Matrix, Superman would have no powers, since he'd be a blue pill. Neo still would, as he is the systemic anomaly.

-AC

I guess.

Which he would, because it's in the Matrix, and he knows everything in there, essentially.

He'd read his code. Superman wouldn't win.

-AC

I get the whole "code" thing, but all of these fights we have Neo in, IN the matrix, against beings that aren't matrix related, that's where the confusion sets in.....

By fighting in the matrix, do his opponents automatically become programs of the matrix?

Their existence would automatically mean that they are either red pills (People waken up out of the Matrix. Normal humans in the real world with powers in the Matrix, like Trinity etc), blue pills (People still trapped in the Matrix) or glitches.

Either way, Neo has control over all that.

Hence why making Neo fight anyone is a bit dumb, because he isn't a superhero. He's not a guy "with powers". It's a lot more complex than that.

-AC

All fights involving Neo then should be outside the matrix, but that Neo retains his fighting skills, and is still able to fly and shit.

Then that would be utterly ridiculous, untrue and not within some of his powers.

Why not just stop making threads involving people who cannot be discussed unless you give/retract powers to/from them?

Simple solution.

-AC

A different route. ✅

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Other than Kryptonite, what are Supermans weaknesses?

Magic.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Other than Kryptonite, what are Supermans weaknesses?

Look at all these worms, Bardock.

They've come out of that can.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Look at all these worms, Bardock.

They've come out of that can.

-AC

No idea what you might possibly mean with that, but isn't the weather mighty fine today?

hehehe...

I agree, Bardock.

Superman is one of those incredibly nonsensical characters at times.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I agree, Bardock.

Superman is one of those incredibly nonsensical characters at times.

-AC

Oh okay, I thought you might have made a reference to something i wasn't aware of. But yeah, Superman sucks usually, I'd even say there are only very few Graphic Novels that make him in any way interesting.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Immense stupidity as well.

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Originally posted by Placidity
I think you're confused. Go back and read what some of the other guys said.
Superman still has all his powers in the Matrix. He would be far superior to people like Morpheus and Trinity. Neo is an exception because he is The One. Also, I'm sure Smith could beat Superman by assimiliating him.

Also, anyone outside of the matrix is just a normal person, except for Neo who can control the machines due to his connection with the source.

Now, onto the part about how Neo is "god" of matrix, I would have to disagree, because he still has to fight other programs. For whatever reason, he doesn't seem to be able to destroy programs/people like the way he did Smith in the first movie. If I'm missing something, please correct me lol.
That said, Neo can break many laws of physics I guess, but there are still limits, and thus he has to fight just like everyone else.

I disregarded their posts because Superman has no source of energy and no advantage with gravity whilst in the Matrix. I did honor their posts in addressing the hypothetical ,what if.

Neo can manipulate the code to it's furthest breaking point, something that the creator cannot do. So, if Superman were to meet Neo inside of the matrix and he still possessed his powers, he would never be able to match neo's speed, because Superman would not be able to slow time as neo can. Superman has divine reaction time, but considering that Superman enters the matrix, he has to have some kind of code imprinted on him, otherwise, this entire debate is bullshit and if Superman has an imprinted code Superman has no chance. So, either way, the topic hits a brick wall of what if's. If these what if's are answered with a solid answer it gives either Neo or Superman the winning advantage. If you take away Neo's ability to manipulate the matrix, he is useless, if you take away supermans powers he is useless, but if you allow Superman to enter the matrix with his powers, he must have some type of code. If we disregard the code aspect it ends in a stalmate. Neo is the Superman of the matrix

Originally posted by Placidity
I think you're confused. Go back and read what some of the other guys said.
Superman still has all his powers in the Matrix. He would be far superior to people like Morpheus and Trinity. Neo is an exception because he is The One. Also, I'm sure Smith could beat Superman by assimiliating him.

Also, anyone outside of the matrix is just a normal person, except for Neo who can control the machines due to his connection with the source.

Now, onto the part about how Neo is "god" of matrix, I would have to disagree, because he still has to fight other programs. For whatever reason, he doesn't seem to be able to destroy programs/people like the way he did Smith in the first movie. If I'm missing something, please correct me lol.
That said, Neo can break many laws of physics I guess, but there are still limits, and thus he has to fight just like everyone else.

I disregarded their posts because Superman has no source of energy and no advantage with gravity whilst in the Matrix. I did honor their posts in addressing the hypothetical ,what if.

Neo can manipulate the code to it's furthest breaking point, something that the creator cannot do. So, if Superman were to meet Neo inside of the matrix and he still possessed his powers, he would never be able to match neo's speed, because Superman would not be able to slow time as neo can. Superman has divine reaction time, but considering that Superman enters the matrix, he has to have some kind of code imprinted on him

Superman can take Neo's head off before Neo can do...Anything.

Superman

Jesus Christ.

When will these Matrix threads end?

Neo kills Superman in the Matrix. Period.