Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
Well, I'll at least get to find out if prayer works or not. With my little experiment. That's for sure I've only said I'll pray eternally to EL, with the song of songs, for L. Will that prayer be answered or will I actually have to put some work into it. I've absolute faith, and faith moves mountains, is it too much to ask?
Lulz. You quoted my last post, then said something that had nothing to do with it.
Anyway, good luck with your praying.
Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
Well, I'll at least get to find out if prayer works or not. With my little experiment. That's for sure I've only said I'll pray eternally to EL, with the song of songs, for L. Will that prayer be answered or will I actually have to put some work into it. I've absolute faith, and faith moves mountains, is it too much to ask?
Experiments with prayer have been done on a large scale. There was no notable difference in survival rates of those who were prayed for and those who were not.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Experiments with prayer have been done on a large scale. There was no notable difference in survival rates of those who were prayed for and those who were not.
Scientists' have faith in science, their uber strong faith counters that of believers. Their world view would not be overturned.
Or not. That would be completely ridiculous don't you think?
Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
Scientists' have faith in science, their uber strong faith counters that of believers. Their world view would not be overturned.Or not. That would be completely ridiculous don't you think?
The faith of scientists in Reason counteracting the faith of others in Religion? It isn't necessarily ridiculous.
Of course you would have to assume that either collective will can alter reality or that both Reason and Religion are back by powerful supernatural entities. Both notions have been explored in one way or another in fiction but probably have little or no basis in fact.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
But does his list really stray from your opinions?
From mine it does:
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
God isn't real you delusional homophobe.
I doubt God is real, in particular the Christian one, I wouldn't go so far as to claim that he certainly isn't. And not everyone with a believe in God is necessarily delusional or homophobic, though there is no denying that some of them are. And, as we are talking about my believes, I do have the pretty unfounded believe that more Christians are delusional and homophobic than atheists, but really, a case to case basis seems necessary.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Theists start lots of wars.
Well, there have been lots of wars started by theists.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You can't prove God exists.
True. At least I have not encountered prove as of yet.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Prayer is a waste of time.
I wouldn't say it is a waste of time. I think it can probably be used as a meditation technique and you might become more clear about your wishes and such, it also might have a placebo effect in some cases, which is all good. Personally I doubt that it is good because a supernatural being will support you.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Atheism is the one true path to enlightenment.
Disagree.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Straying from the true teachings is a sign of idiocy and inability to handle life.
As well.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Poor people can uplift themselves because nothing in society holds them back from that.
Disagree as well.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Prayer should be privatized.
I think technically they are privatized.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The faith of scientists in Reason counteracting the faith of others in Religion? It isn't necessarily ridiculous.Of course you would have to assume that either collective will can alter reality or that both Reason and Religion are back by powerful supernatural entities. Both notions have been explored in one way or another in fiction but probably have little or no basis in fact.
I love the idea of a deity in charge of Reason. If the god did its job too well and gave people reason, no one would believe it it/Him anymore.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.