Im saying everyone is acting like Havok is going to be cowering and firing shots off at his own shadow. The guy has fought worse than Wolverine, has lead his own team, and has the ability to remain calm in a fight. Just because he had a fanboy moment around Wolverine once or twice doesnt mean he wont waste him promptly.
Originally posted by llagrok
?It's true.
Lets evaluate the evidence shall we:
1. Wolverine has known Havok for years.
2. Havok looks up to Wolverine and there is evidence for this in other issues.
3. Lots of other heroes were shitting their pants as well as Havok.
So the evidence indicates that what Wolverine said was probably correct.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Im saying everyone is acting like Havok is going to be cowering and firing shots off at his own shadow. The guy has fought worse than Wolverine, has lead his own team, and has the ability to remain calm in a fight. Just because he had a fanboy moment around Wolverine once or twice doesnt mean he wont waste him promptly.
That still doesn't make what I said incorrect. The facts still indicate that Havok seems to have some CIS for Wolverine, but im not sure its going to be enough for him to lose the majority. Quite frankly im just arguing that what Wolverine said was probably correct.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Lets evaluate the evidence shall we:1. Wolverine has known Havok for years.
2. Havok looks up to Wolverine and there is evidence for this in other issues.
3. Lots of other heroes were shitting their pants as well as Havok.So the evidence indicates that what Wolverine said was probably correct.
- Ok
- What other issues?
- Ok?
Originally posted by redhotrash
I look up to Steve Hawking for leading the charge into black hole research, would I be scared of him in combat? Not really. Respect doesnt equal fear.
Maybe not but theres a difference in respecting somebodies ability to kill people as opposed to somebodies scientific knowledge.
Im pretty sure if you had to face him in some inter-galactic war and Steven Hawkins knowledge was being used to help destroy your army then you would be scared. 😉
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
X-men issue 166 and X-men 170. See what Havok says about Wolverine he kinda looks up to Wolverine the way Spiderman looks upt to Cap. Its not a stretch to think that he would fear him in combat.
Wolverine wasn't even in 166 nor did I find any mention of him. I just skimmed through it though, could you be more specific?
Alex gave Wolverine a pep talk in 170 and told him that he was experienced....
Wow, Alex is shaking in his boots....
Originally posted by llagrok
Wolverine wasn't even in 166 nor did I find any mention of him. I just skimmed through it though, could you be more specific?
My bad its Xmen issue 167. See what Havok says to Wolverine when he gets on the Blackbird.
Originally posted by llagrok
Alex gave Wolverine a pep talk in 170 and told him that he was experienced....Wow, Alex is shaking in his boots....
Yes and what did he say? "You're never to old you're Wolverine". My point is that he greatly respects him for his career and the things hes done so its not a stretch to think that he would fear him in combat. In that situation there is nothing to be afraid of since he is not fighting Wolverine.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
My bad its Xmen issue 167. See what Havok says to Wolverine when he gets on the Blackbird.Yes and what did he say? "You're never to old you're Wolverine". My point is that he greatly respects him for his career and the things hes done so its not a stretch to think that he would fear him in combat. In that situation there is nothing to be afraid of since he is not fighting Wolverine.
Yes, there is a stretch :/
And it works both ways really
Originally posted by llagrok
Yes, there is a stretch :/And it works both ways really
What so the evidence doesn't indicate that Havok respects Wolverine? Why does Havok respect Wolverine because hes an expert at knitting or is it because Wolverine is a badass killing machine thats taking on the Hulk and has had a long career kicking butt? I don't know why but something tells me that if you respect a persons ability to harm people its not a stretch to think you would fear them in combat.
Nah its not a stretch. 😬
Originally posted by redhotrash
It is a stretch, Iceman looks up to most of the X-men (being the youngest member) but he'd wreck most of them.
No its not a stretch its a stretch because you want it to be. Like I said Wolverine is respected for his ability to kill and his long career, also considering the fact that Wolverine has know him for YEARS, means that Wolverine was probably tellling the truth. Hell other people in that issue were also scared stiff as well, why would Havok be the excpetion? My argument is not just one point but differents points, if you focus on one you may not get the point.
Iceman was one of the first X-men, so I don't know about that. Im pretty sure that he looks up to some of them but you seem to be blowing things out of proportion.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Alright my bad, if Iceman and Beast were to fight, Iceman would be greatly intimidated and lose.
*sigh* I don't know what the hell your talking about I dont even think Iceman looks up to Beast greatly.
Anyway my argument is not even that Havok will lose the majority. Im just arguing that its possible for Havok to lose a few due to CIS.
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Who the Hell cares about if Havok respects Logan or not. Y'all treating Havok like he will be shaking in his boats as soon as he sees Logan.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Anyway my argument is not even that Havok will lose the majority. Im just arguing that its possible for Havok to lose a few due to CIS.
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
people are completely ignoring what me and alf are saying.were not saying havok does not win. were saying given the right scenerio such as woods, havok cis could allow logan to take the majority. Other wises havok every dam time.
WHat's stopping Havok from doing an omni-directional blast in the woods?