Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That notwithstanding it would be impossible for Galactus to be more powerful than any one 616 Celestial. Exitar himself was stating as being more powerful than an entire host of Celestials.
Stated to be not shown to be.
Arishem purged a entire Planet of offensive life with a Fraction of his power, Exitar has done roughly the same.
But ofcause if we are going to work only on statements then Galactus has 3-4 times been stated as the most powerful physical being in the universe.
Two of them the third you will have to find yourself it was in Silver Surfer #4 annihilation something.
Going to look after the statement from Thanos concerning the Cosmic Cubes but I recall him saying something about them being the most powerful items in the universe and one of these are but a fraction of Galactus power.
As said that one can be found in Silver Surfer 4# Annihilation.
The most supremely destructive figure?
The Celestials have already been mentioned Galactus is the last to be menioned beside from Eternity, and judging from the way that Kubik and Kosmos grow they get to the next powerlevel with each advancement.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Indeed, I recall the mention in Annihilation. But, as you say, it mentions he's the most supremely destructive figure, which I agree he is.But while Galactus is an avatar of destruction. The Celestials both create and destroy.
That should place him fairly above any single Celestial then IF we go by statements alone.
And what relevance does the create part have in a combat Orientated situation? Galactus can Create as well if that is to be the case, I just fail to see what difference it will make.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33IIRC about the first scan, in that same story Kubik mentions that a Celestials power far exceeds his own.
Kubik also tells Kosmos about the "Great Powers" which include Death, Eternity, LT, etc. The Celestials were mentioned earlier as UT said....Kubik didn't include them in the "Great Powers" discussion...each member of the "Great Powers" are big-time cosmics...Galactus is included in that same group, Celestials weren't...just saying.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Indeed, I recall the mention in Annihilation. But, as you say, it mentions he's the most supremely destructive figure, which I agree he is.But while Galactus is an avatar of destruction. The Celestials both create and destroy.
The statement in Annihilation says
"The universe's most powerful creature"
it's in the intro to Annihilation: SS #2 and #4.
And it's not entirely complete to just say "Galactus is an avatar of destruction"
Rather Galactus is an avatar of cosmic continuity who operates, for lack of a better term, through destruction.
Celestials "both create and destroy" because they perform genetic manipulation over millennia, then exterminate if the development doesn't go as planned.
Galactus "destroys" to maintain the balance between Eternity and Death...his very existence allows the universe to continue living. His absence causes bad stuff (abraxas, universal inbalance, etc.)
So it's not so cut and dry as "avatar of destruction". That's abraxas...not big G.
Originally posted by Utrigita
That should place him fairly above any single Celestial then IF we go by statements alone.And what relevance does the create part have in a combat Orientated situation? Galactus can Create as well if that is to be the case, I just fail to see what difference it will make.
I still don't buy it. There isn't one speck of evidence that Galactus can take a Celestial at his normal, walking around levels.
The only evidence we have is that Galactus seems to regard Celestials highly and he doesn't want to deal with them.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Is there a speck to say a Celestial can take Galactus?
I still don't buy it. There isn't one speck of evidence that Galactus can take a Celestial at his normal, walking around levels.The only evidence we have is that Galactus seems to regard Celestials highly and he doesn't want to deal with them.
Are you talking about the HOTU issue? Because Celestials are some of the most powerful beings in the universe... of course it'd surprise him.
And when was it that he didn't want to deal with them? Are you talking about the questionable writing of when Tiamut awoken?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Because Galactus hasn't shown fear against the HOTU, IG, and then the IG again right after, Beyonder, Hulk, or other entities?
Why is it questionable?
As well as one statement meaning nothing. Galactus has nothing to fear from him. It was just inserted to make him seem awesome.
You said questionable writing, junior.
Using the Heart incident is a bad excuse since every super being in the MU were there and none of them were scared either. IG? The only cosmic/abstract who seemed to be scared of the glove was Eternity. In fact, I seem to remember 2 Celestials taking Thanos head on.
