Originally posted by ultimatethoryes it is possible but there is no way he would resort to that. xavier is all about human/mutant equality so any advantage he had he would suppress so that he himself would be seen as an equal.
Couldnt xavier have sort of cheated to get those degrees? He is a master telepath after all and transferring knowledge might not be that hard.
Originally posted by psycho gundamXavier's also an incredible bastard. I wouldn't put gimmicking degrees past him if I didn't think he legitimately felt he needed to know the information.
yes it is possible but there is no way he would resort to that. xavier is all about human/mutant equality so any advantage he had he would suppress so that he himself would be seen as an equal.
xavier is a legitimate genius of several fields.
Of course, telepathically learning that wouldn't be out of the question.
1 Reed Richard
2 Dr Doom
3 Bruce Banner-(his intelligence is said to be too high to be measured by any Intelligence test)
4 The Leader -(He should be smarter than all these people (having Superhuman Intelligence and all) however I don't feel that he has lived up to his potential.
5 Murdok ( AIM created him as a means to process the vast amounts of information used within their elaborate experiments, ex The Cosmic Cube. Which couldn't be done by any computer they could created. In essence he's a Hyper Computer)
6 Tony Stark
7 Hank Pym
8 Magneto
9 Apocalypse
10 Possibly Kid Omega
Originally posted by Mr Marvel
1 Reed Richard2 Dr Doom
3 Bruce Banner-(his intelligence is said to be too high to be measured by any Intelligence test)
4 The Leader -(He should be smarter than all these people (having Superhuman Intelligence and all) however I don't feel that he has lived up to his potential.
5 Murdok ( AIM created him as a means to process the vast amounts of information used within their elaborate experiments, ex The Cosmic Cube. Which couldn't be done by any computer they could created. In essence he's a Hyper Computer)
6 Tony Stark
7 Hank Pym
8 Magneto
9 Apocalypse
10 Possibly Kid Omega
Following the premise of this thread, wouldn't #7 have to be Amadeus Cho?
Originally posted by Mr Marvelthere is a core list for the elite 7, there is only one unknown.
1 Reed Richard2 Dr Doom
3 Bruce Banner-(his intelligence is said to be too high to be measured by any Intelligence test)
4 The Leader -(He should be smarter than all these people (having Superhuman Intelligence and all) however I don't feel that he has lived up to his potential.
5 Murdok ( AIM created him as a means to process the vast amounts of information used within their elaborate experiments, ex The Cosmic Cube. Which couldn't be done by any computer they could created. In essence he's a Hyper Computer)
6 Tony Stark
7 Hank Pym
8 Magneto
9 Apocalypse
10 Possibly Kid Omega
{in no order}
-reed richards
-anthony stark
-henry pym
-charles f. xavier
-amadeus cho
-david bruce banner
------could be------
-? I believe it is jose santini aka the mad thinker
-? most believe it to be victor von doom
__________________________
those not eligible for the title and why;
-the leader. gamma radiation greatly amped his intellect but even prior to that he was second only to bruce banner in their scientific fields.
-nathanial essex. believed dead by the scientific community. even before that like all mad scientists he was ostracized for his discoveries so he wouldn't even get credit from the scientific community.
-en sabah nur. born and raised before western civilization was even created, and was known to be a godly figure for the majority of his time on earth.
-erik lensherr. raised in the auschwitz concentration camps without a true public identity. he like apocalypse lacks normal human contact.
the way this list works is that it is for those who are legal citizens and are known by the general public. they by no means are the most intelligant beings on the planet(for the most part) but their intelligance is not amped by any external means. for example the flash is faster than frank castle but one gained their speed artificially or through unaturall means. if that speed was stripped, the much more trained human in this case the punisher would arguably be the faster human being in the 100 meter dash.
Originally posted by Eel O'Brian
Xavier's also an incredible bastard. I wouldn't put gimmicking degrees past him if I didn't think he legitimately felt he needed to know the information.Of course, telepathically learning that wouldn't be out of the question.
Frankly, I can't see how any telepath with degrees can be called legit. Unless we know that they weren't cheating, how can we be sure they didn't telepathically read the answers or telepathically transfer information? ❌
If you're going to exclude Apoc for his lack of conventional ID, (and not his technopathy and celestial tech, both of which I could actually appreciate as reasons, cause following Psycho's reasoning we apparently need to exclude artificially enhanced people as well), then you have to exclude Xavier on the basis of his using his TP to enhance his intellect.
And Reed Richards himself, since his powers also enhanced his intellect.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestcharles fallows a strict rule of ethics, especially when mutant powers are concerned. cheating to gain doctorates is a huge disregard of that mindset.
Frankly, I can't see how any telepath with degrees can be called legit. Unless we know that they weren't cheating, how can we be sure they didn't telepathically read the answers or telepathically transfer information? ❌If you're going to exclude Apoc for his lack of conventional ID, (and not his technopathy and celestial tech, both of which I could actually appreciate as reasons, cause following Psycho's reasoning we apparently need to exclude artificially enhanced people as well), then you have to exclude Xavier on the basis of his using his TP to enhance his intellect.
And Reed Richards himself, since his powers also enhanced his intellect.
Mad Thinker- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Mad_Thinker
Originally posted by psycho gundam
there is a core list for the elite 7, there is only one unknown.{in no order}
-reed richards
-anthony stark
-henry pym
-charles f. xavier
-amadeus cho
-david bruce banner------could be------
-? I believe it is jose santini aka the mad thinker
-? most believe it to be victor von doom__________________________
those not eligible for the title and why;
-the leader. gamma radiation greatly amped his intellect but even prior to that he was second only to bruce banner in their scientific fields.
-nathanial essex. believed dead by the scientific community. even before that like all mad scientists he was ostracized for his discoveries so he wouldn't even get credit from the scientific community.
-en sabah nur. born and raised before western civilization was even created, and was known to be a godly figure for the majority of his time on earth.
-erik lensherr. raised in the auschwitz concentration camps without a true public identity. he like apocalypse lacks normal human contact.
the way this list works is that it is for those who are legal citizens and are known by the general public. they by no means are the most intelligant beings on the planet(for the most part) but their intelligance is not amped by any external means. for example the flash is faster than frank castle but one gained their speed artificially or through unaturall means. if that speed was stripped, the much more trained human in this case the punisher would arguably be the faster human being in the 100 meter dash.
How on earth do you justify putting Xavier above Kid Omega? Frost stated that they weren't comparable to him.
Originally posted by llagrokagain, his powers amp his intellect. the list is devoted to those who's natural intelligence is high without any modification of any sort, and known by the the general public, because after all it is them who regard them as the world's smartest.
How on earth do you justify putting Xavier above Kid Omega? Frost stated that they weren't comparable to him.
for instance if their was a meteor about to strike the earth, the governments of the world would contact reed richards, stark, banner etc to lead a project to prevent it.