Sabretooth vs Hercules

Originally posted by jinzin
Well if you find out the issue number lemme know k?

And no reaching involved, fighting ability doesn't play a factor when you grab someone to keep them from using their speed and agility, it necessarily leaves your arm helpess as it's busy grabbing/holding.

Jugg did KO him with a backhand, but that was after hitting/throwing him 4 more times before that during the fight.

Juggy knoicked Logan out with a backhand, in a fight with the X-Men in Uncanny X -men 102-the scans are on page 22 of KMC's Juggernaut Respect Thread

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Juggy knoicked Logan out with a backhand, in a fight with the X-Men in Uncanny X -men 102-the scans are on page 22 of KMC's Juggernaut Respect Thread

Dude thank you, but you are wasting your time. Some people (no one in this thread 🙄 ) know damn well Juggernaut back-handed Wolverine. They just wont admit it. It was a straight up back-hand. There was no throwing around before doing it either.

It's like when you tell someone their wife or husband is no good, but they are too blind to see it....or they act like they dont see it and make up every excuse in the world to defend the situation. Eventually you just ignore the situation.

hercules by far

Herc 10/10

I doubt Sabs can cut Hercules
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/IH_115_DCP_015.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/IH_115_DCP_016.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/IH_115_DCP_018.jpg

Wolverine fanboys ignoring facts? Nah that was OBVIOUSLY a lowshowing. Pfft, being knocked out by a class 100+ beast, what PIS. /sarcasm

Anyway, Sabretooth isnt hurting Herc. Hercules had a SHIELD rocket designed to take out a helicarrier slammed in his face and didnt miss a beat.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Dude thank you, but you are wasting your time. Some people (no one in this thread 🙄 ) know damn well Juggernaut back-handed Wolverine. They just wont admit it. It was a straight up back-hand. There was no throwing around before doing it either.

It's like when you tell someone their wife or husband is no good, but they are too blind to see it....or they act like they dont see it and make up every excuse in the world to defend the situation. Eventually you just ignore the situation.

You're being a fool. Yes Juggernaught KOed Logan with a backhand no one said that he didn't, but it was NEVER a one-shot. It was after an already prolonged battle had taken place. Even the battle that we saw was only a portion of what took place. Half the fight was off panel, and what we did see.. Wolverine was punched, or thrown 4 times in that fight by the time he was put down. And even though he did get put down he landed two offensive maneuvars that would have mangled any other brick who isn't invulnerable to physical damage. You think that the last panel is an indication of how Wolverine brick fights should go? What about the rest of it, had that been Hercule's his torso would be in peices or he wouldn't have a face.
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1. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2867/juggybqb5.jpg
2. http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5798/juggyb2qs6.jpg
3. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4796/juggyb3jb7.jpg
4. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3888/juggyb4ee4.jpg
5. http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1606/juggyb5zw2.jpg

Wasn't a one-shot and even if it was it wouldn't matter as Wolverine standing up to multiple brick punches is the standard not the other way around.

Originally posted by jinzin

It wasn't like Juggernaut landed solid blows on Wolverine. And throwing him isn't exactly a high damage attack. The first square Juggernaut got on Wolverine KOed him. Essentially it was a one shot.

Originally posted by Priest
I doubt Sabs can cut Hercules
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/IH_115_DCP_015.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/IH_115_DCP_016.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/IH_115_DCP_018.jpg

If Immortal Herc's durability somehow went up past his former self than I guess Sabes may not be able to cut him, but I personally haven't seen that, and bone claw Wolverine was obviously able to cut the guy.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Wolverine fanboys ignoring facts? Nah that was OBVIOUSLY a lowshowing. Pfft, being knocked out by a class 100+ beast, what PIS. /sarcasm

Anyway, Sabretooth isnt hurting Herc. Hercules had a SHIELD rocket designed to take out a helicarrier slammed in his face and didnt miss a beat.

Perhaps you should learn what you're talking about before you run your mouth.

No one's ignoring that Juggernaught KOed Wolverine. But he didn't do it in one shot.

"Wolverine fans presenting the FACTS and correcting people like crazy when nay-sayers are grossly misrepresenting feats against him or ignorantly posting about them?" ✅

Originally posted by Newjak
Let's be honest here jinzin.

It wasn't like Juggernaut landed solid blows on Wolverine. And throwing him isn't exactly a high damage attack. The first square Juggernaut got on Wolverine KOed him. Essentially it was a one shot.

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Okay, let's be honest then...

In one panel we've got Marko swingin for the fences, air lines coursing Wolverine from top to bottem, and Wolverine airborn, spread eagle... I'm supposed to believe what? That that was a glancing blow or something?

In the another panel, we've got Marko throwing another fist with Logan airborn, and straight legged, with impact marks around Logan's body... Once again, glancing blow?

And if you think being thrown doesn't hurt... get real!
Throws can shatter bones, and knock mofos out giving them concussions... and that's on the wrestling mat, nevermind the solid floor. Now we've got a guy who can toss things into escape velocity throwing someone and I'm to believe it WASN'T causing damage?

Honesty?
I HONESTLY have to believe you're reaching to say that all the panels indicating damage were inconsequential to Logan prior to the backhand, or that the artist just muffed that up in translation. You're giving a HUGE benefit of the doubt to the idea that those panels are inconsequential, and that doesn't even fit Logan's representation at the time. Taking Firelord blasts like nothing, Colossus shots like nadda, and getting pounded by Kierrok and jumping back into combat without missing a beat, same with Hulk and his bone crushing throw even after having been gassed.
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Originally posted by jinzin
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Okay, let's be honest then...

In one panel we've got Marko swingin for the fences, air lines coursing Wolverine from top to bottem, and Wolverine airborn, spread eagle... I'm supposed to believe what? That that was a glancing blow or something?

In the another panel, we've got Marko throwing another fist with Logan airborn, and straight legged, with impact marks around Logan's body... Once again, glancing blow?

And if you think being thrown doesn't hurt... get real!
Throws can shatter bones, and knock mofos out giving them concussions... and that's on the wrestling mat, nevermind the solid floor. Now we've got a guy who can toss things into escape velocity throwing someone and I'm to believe it WASN'T causing damage?

Honesty?
I HONESTLY have to believe you're reaching to say that all the panels indicating damage were inconsequential to Logan prior to the backhand, or that the artist just muffed that up in translation. You're giving a HUGE benefit of the doubt to the idea that those panels are inconsequential, and that doesn't even fit Logan's representation at the time. Taking Firelord blasts like nothing, Colossus shots like nadda, and getting pounded by Kierrok and jumping back into combat without missing a beat, same with Hulk and his bone crushing throw even after having been gassed.
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I took that first panel to be Wolverine jumping away from Juggernaut.

The second hit seemed like he basically knocked him away while Wolverine was dodging.

As for throwing yeah that would hurt if the guy was holding on. Juggernaut basically just pushed Wolverine away.

And the one time he did get a hold of the runt. He smacked him KOing him. 😆

Originally posted by Newjak
I took that first panel to be Wolverine jumping away from Juggernaut.

The second hit seemed like he basically knocked him away while Wolverine was dodging.

As for throwing yeah that would hurt if the guy was holding on. Juggernaut basically just pushed Wolverine away.

And the one time he did get a hold of the runt. He smacked him KOing him. 😆

Jumping away.... spread eagle? 😐

Rolling... with impact marks straight legged? 😬

You couldn't possible know that.

He hit and tossed him 4 times before knocking him out. 🙄

Originally posted by jinzin
Jumping away.... spread eagle? 😐

Rolling... with impact marks straight legged? 😬

You couldn't possible know that.

He hit and tossed him 4 times before knocking him out. 🙄

It's been done before in comics. 😬

I know because look at the panel with Wolverine's feet. Then the next one.

Wolverine's feet are facing away from Juggernaut, and in the next panel he standing around avoiding Cain slamming his fist into the ground. Seems like he pretty much tried to get away to me.

Like I said the first time Cain lands a solid blow with KOes Wolverine. It was definitive because he was holding him and then smacked him.

Looks to me Logan jumped away from Cain once he realized his claws were useless.

Originally posted by Newjak
It's been done before in comics 😬

It's been done before in comics. 😬

I know because look at the panel with Wolverine's feet. Then the next one. The writer himself could tell you juggs one shotted wolverine and some people would still say it didnt happen.

Wolverine's feet are facing away from Juggernaut, and in the next panel he standing around avoiding Cain slamming his fist into the ground. Seems like he pretty much tried to get away to me.

Like I said the first time Cain lands a solid blow with KOes Wolverine. It was definitive because he was holding him and then smacked him.

You are right he is jumping away from Juggs in that panel. Why are you even wasting your breath with this debate. Chris Claremont could come on here and say wolverine was one shotted and some people would still deny it.

Originally posted by Newjak
It's been done before in comics 😬

It's been done before in comics. 😬

I know because look at the panel with Wolverine's feet. Then the next one.

Wolverine's feet are facing away from Juggernaut, and in the next panel he standing around avoiding Cain slamming his fist into the ground. Seems like he pretty much tried to get away to me.

Like I said the first time Cain lands a solid blow with KOes Wolverine. It was definitive because he was holding him and then smacked him.

Not in that one. 😬

Not in that one. 😬

He wasn't avoiding Cain's fist, Nightcrawler was... have you even read the comic?

The first and second time Cain landed blows on Wolverine they did next to nothing but slow Wolverine down. No matter how many times you say it Wolverine wasn't one shotted there. And once again, had that been any other brick who wasn't invulnerable to physical damage, they'd be dead. Or severly jacked up.

Originally posted by jinzin
It's not unreasonable for Sabretooth to take 4 wins away from this fight. At any rate, it's hardly spite.

If Sabretooth can take 4 wins here then I will eat my ass.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
You are right he is jumping away from Juggs in that panel. Why are you even wasting your breath with this debate. Chris Claremont could come on here and say wolverine was one shotted and some people would still deny it.

Originally posted by h1a8
If Sabretooth can take 4 wins here then I will eat my ass.

I'd like to see that.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'd like to see that.