how long does it take to become a jedi?

Started by nytmare4 pages

Hmmm

Luke did not destroy any kind of sith member, anakin skywalker was the chosen one to end the dark side and balance the force and he did. Anakin skywalker was the one that killed darth sidious when he was zapping luke. All luke was there for was to bring him back from the dark side. all along anakin was always the chosen one. and for the whole luke training in 1 week or so? look at his muscle in ANH, and look at it when hes on degobah, complete difference in muscle tone and everything, now i know this is really the actor working out but lucas was making it look like there was alot mroe time in between movies then what we had see, they could have been on hoth for 5 years and we would never know it. not to mention luke had the 2 best jedi's to teach him and he already had a head start being a skywalker.

Look, honestly, you guys don't know teh time gaps? I guess me, a young ol' 15 year old shall have to whip up the answers! MWAHAHAHA!

Okay, first of all, between Ep IV and ep V, there is a 3 year gap. This gives Luke 3 eyars to train on dagobah, which makes sense if you think about it. Anakin already balanced the force in hte EP: III, by becoming a Sith although, he did end up sorta over balancing it. The universe was full of Jedi, and only two sith at most.

Now Tyranus is dead, and Anakin was recruited to bring balance. Jedi died and it became almost equal in number, so Anakin already fulfilled the Prophecies, but in a different way to what the Jedi Council expected it to be? Happy now people?

And it takes roughly 2 years mimumum to become a Jedi Knight from Padawan. You are a youngling from almost straight after birth until about 8 years old. You're then a padawan, where you're given a High rank, be it Master or Knight, as a Mentor. This lasts until the Mentor feels you are ready to face the trials. If you pass, they become a higher level, unless already master, and then you become knight. To become a Master yourself, you have to get yourself a Padawan OR do something exceptionally great.

There, done and dusted XD

Yoda's correspondance College for aspiring Jedi Knights

Luke became a Jedi on a correpondance course from, "Yoda's onlie Jedi Academy", He had a partial credit from Obi Wan and had to visit Yoda for two short residentials. So it must be pretty easy! 😄

Darth Piro makes an excellent point... for a Sith!

The "balance" was out of line in favor of the Light Side of the Force with 10,000 Jedi... Anakin's actions reduced those numbers to 2... and that matched him and Darth Sidius...

Perhaps the prophecy WAS mis-interpreted as Yoda proposed in EP I...

Great work Piro... but you are too young to chose the Dark Side... Come back to the Light Side while there is still time.

Jacen Skywalker

I see, you've read the new republic books too eh Jacen? pretty coll innit? I love sith, they're double bladed Lightsabers rawk XD

And when I make a point, I always like it to be a good one XD And btw, there were 3 Jedi, there was the Alderaanian King who took Leia... :3

Sometimes I ruin stuff like this though.. with my posts, I usually ruin the whole purpose of the thread.. -.-' XD

SITHY!!!! (with a double bladed lightsaber) PHWOOOMMMM

The Alderanian King... aka Senator Bail Organa... was NOT a Jedi. If he was, he would have been killed by the Clones when he went to the Jedi Temple to investigate the explosion....

Peace :-)

Mmm.. I thought he was, cos he was protected by that blonde dude who died when hte clones wnt to attack organa. Besides, he stuck with Yoda and Obi-wan... :3

Peace back ta that!

Luke's Jedi Training.

Luke's training...In Episode 5 he told Yoda that Ben had taught him a lot...remember, Ben was physically dead, but spiritually he was still around...I think he had been training Luke on the spiritual plane for years...and possibly before they met in Episode 4...remember, Luke knew about Uncle Ben...perhaps he had been training him without Luke's direct knowledge...secretly...more later...

Luke became a jedi so fast b'cus he was trained by the force, (ben kenobi) who had become one with the force so could show him more just becuse you spend 20years at it from birth does not mean u will be a jedi, its talent and natural ability the time is wisdom as luke is the son of the chosen one i expect that once he is shown the door he will be able to walk through it like his dad, if you catch my drift!

Originally posted by zimain
Luke became a jedi so fast b'cus he was trained by the force, (ben kenobi) who had become one with the force so could show him more just becuse you spend 20years at it from birth does not mean u will be a jedi, its talent and natural ability the time is wisdom as luke is the son of the chosen one i expect that once he is shown the door he will be able to walk through it like his dad, if you catch my drift!

Zimain, you miss my point. I think that Ben had been training Luke since he was a child, but Luke was not aware he was being trained to be a future Jedi Master. Ben had to keep it a secret. The exact way he trained him I do not know, but hopefully it will be revealed in the TV series.

ah.... great idea. Just like Martial Arts Masters often train without the students knowing they are being trained... good point. But remember, the actual time between EP4 and EP6 is 4 years, so Luke had more time than just an apparent "few weeks" on Dagobah.

there's a TV series? you mean the cartoon? i see what you mean with being trained without knowing, sounds likely

Honestly, i really don't think Luke was even close to being ready after that one week period with Yoda on Degobah. People were saying earlier that he was trained for a week then was all of a sudden able to beat vader and palpitine. But the truth is, he was not ready at all. He wasnt shipped off to go fight vader either, he went against what yoda was telling him to do and left degobah. Yoda and Obi Wan both knew he wasn't even close to being ready. They were telling him he wasnt ready and that he has to stay and train or he will be destroyed by vader. A real jedi would know to stay and train to increase their knowledge of the force. He could not focus while being trained and wasnt a true believer of the force until yoda picked his ship up out of the swamp. The only reason he left was to play hero and go rescue his friends.

There is no way in hell that someone can become a jedi in a week, and if he was supposedly being mind trained by Obi Wan for the first 20 years of his life, then why was he such a whiney little baby for all of Episode 4 and most of Episode 5. And if he was such a jedi after this short training period, then why did he get owned by vader at the end of episode 5. After watching that fight scene, i felt as if i cud destroy luke with a blindfold on. no jedi cud ever be that bad at fighting.If this is everyone's idea of a jedi then idk what to say

He wasnt ready in Episode 6 either, he believed he was a jedi which is good, and he was in fact much more in control of the force by episode 6 but he was nowhere near as skilled as the jedi of the old republic. By this movie, he was strong enough in the force that he was able to make vader think about switching back to the light side of the force. But to say he was a great jedi, i think whoever thinks that shud watch all six movies strait through and then see what you think.

I based this whole argument on the comparison of the jedi in episodes 1-3 to luke in episodes 4-6. This may be lucas' fault by making the jedi in 1-3 look 454325243 better then the jedi in 4-6, but in comparison to people like mace windu and yoda, luke is just a little child whose main role in the movies was to switch vader back to the good side so he can bring balance to the force as stated in the prophecy. The only reason he was able to do this was becuz he was vaders son, only minimum training was needed for this becuz vader wouldnt kill luke in the first place. the rank of jedi knight was not neeed for this feat and he most certainly did not hold that rank at all.

Haven't we already finsihed the point about the prophecy? I've been gone for about a week, and hell breaks loose.. heh, joking.. but yeah, already been about the scriptures we have... About how maybe the jedi council misinterpretted teh scripture, because now, after seeing ep 3, I actually noticecd something. 2 Sith are all that remain at a time right? That's what is the law of sith, otherwise hell breaks lose.. master and apprenticee, then there were the two jedi left. technically, Anakin/Darth Vader/whatever you wanna call him did bring ballance, by reducing the numbers.

Now, to Luke. I completely agree with you BigDaddy, compared to hte old republic Jedi, Luke is like... a... I dunno, something really abd compared to those. All he did was whine about "Oh what's the point of this? I don't even wanna be here, I wanna go back and do some farming even though I should remember my family are dead.." sheesh.. he annoys me.. I thought Obi-wan shoulda hacked 'im in half right there...

well thats the point of ep 3, he fulfils his destiny, and the jedi relise this but at what cost!

All but 2 XD

Well i think we can clearly see that Luke is not a jedi, he did not complete his training, he went to confront Vader on his own, and he beats Vader because Darth could not kill his son. What considers the prophecy i apply to you Darth Piro, its a good idea that Anakin did bring balance to the force itself, but that did not mean equality in the Galaxy bacause Palpatine and Darth Vader could affect a lot of people due to their fear what in other hand Obi-Wan and Yoda could not, especially because after the episode III everyone thinks that the jedis wanted to control over the senate. So that means that the darkside controls the galaxy. Someone asked why did not Obi-Wan and Yoda confront Palpatine and Darth Vader, that would sure have been an interesting 2vs2, in my opinion the jedis would have a slight advantage due to Darth Vader's armor which leads to decrease of capability to fight but lets leave that by side, what i'm saying is that, that the jedis could not even get close to the Emperor because of the imperial troops. So my guess the only purpose of Luke or should i say, Obi-Wan and Yoda knew that the only way of getting close to Darth Vader was via his son Luke, so he could bring him back to the light side ( love has pushed him to the dark side, and love could bring him back). I cannot imagine that Yoda would think that Luke can get so powerful so he could beat Emperor. Well i do not know about the prophecy but i presume it comes from jedi's legends so its understandable that bringing balance to the force means only light which eventually happens. Well if i'm mistaken about the prophecy please let me know.

That's what the Jedi WANT you to think XD, no right, the prophecy, I know, but the prophecy doesn't actually state anything about being all light. The reason they don't do a 2 on 2 is...Yoda lost his Lightsaber in Ep 3, along with his beloved cloak, and is now dead anyway, and Obiwan is dead.. killed by vader anyway. They're old and slow now. Lujke is a puppet... Did Vader know Leia was his daughter? because I don't remember him showing any compassion for her...

I thought that Obi-Wan and Yoda would attack Palp and Vader shortly after the events of episode III, but lets leave that by the side. I still do not know the origins of the prophecy, if it origins from jedi legends it for sure means that balance to the force means only light, and in that case is totaly irrelevant to the sith. Why doesnt Vader know Leia is his daughter? I do not know, but more touching question for me is how Vader knows Luke is his son, or when does he realises that? Because firstly his comment is like: force is strong in this one, so i presume he doesnt know then yet. Well later Vader finds out about Leia anyway, so i guess its just a question of when he realises that.

👽 Why didn't obi wan train luke when he able to instead of luke going with obi wan to alderaan and obi wan teaching luke the basics and how did luke continue his training with yoda instead of on his own.