Orion vs Juggernaut

Originally posted by fangirl101
The mother box is a thinking computer that will act accordingly if Orion loses himself. Orion also uses his other powers when he's knows there is no physical way of putting an opponent down. orion is much like his father, he only goes physical if it's a grudge thing. example, him and superman's constant who's got bigger balls, matches.

if you leave out the battle and just go to bfr or mother box intervention it sounds like you are trying to "omit" the part where juggy beats orion within an inch of his life, which is a glaring possibility.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
so, why did you write juggernaut off so easily when in actuality it would be an extremely difficult opponent for orion to battle.?

if you leave out the battle and just go to bfr or mother box intervention it sounds like you are trying to "omit" the part where juggy beats orion within an inch of his life, which is a glaring possibility.

It's not. Juggy is not stronger than superman. And Superman can't even do that.

Originally posted by fangirl101
It's not. Juggy is not stronger than superman. And Superman can't even do that.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but it could be argued that superman tires when fighting similar opponents, thats something juggernaut will never do. and lets not forget the whole invulnerability factor as well.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The same invulnerability that Got him knocked out when fighting onslaught? or had him struggling against war hulk? Juggs isn't truly invulnerable. A solar system shattering blast should knock him out. Superman might tire from fighting Orion as Orion can dish it as fast as superman since he has superspeed. Juggs is a slow thing that can't fly. Orion has many more options for a win than juggs.

-the onslaught shaming of cain was PIS, the gem wasn't in his body.

-struggling against the hulk is no small feat at all, war hulk was being powered by celestial energies and cain still held his ground.

-orion vs juggernaut would be a pure slug-fest cause both parties want nothing more than to beat their superiority into their opponent....orion getting rid of juggernaut in any matter would be considered a "bytch move". orion would never resort to that, unless he is turning soft or something.

- and this notion that all characters that fight superman somehow have superspeed all of a sudden just by locking horns with him is weird, i guess orion slows himself down to fight slower opponents...you know he doesn't want to kill them that hard. 🙄

Originally posted by fangirl101
The same invulnerability that Got him knocked out when fighting onslaught? or had him struggling against war hulk? Juggs isn't truly invulnerable. A solar system shattering blast should knock him out. Superman might tire from fighting Orion as Orion can dish it as fast as superman since he has superspeed. Juggs is a slow thing that can't fly. Orion has many more options for a win than juggs.

Onslaught saga was pure garbage. Cytorack was even different. 😘
Also if Thor's god blast didn't knock him out I doubt many things can...even a solar system shattering blast.

Orion has the tools to win this, though no BFR hurts. He can boomtube things to throw at juggs........though I doubt entropy is one of them. If he can boomtube the source's power at juggs, Juggs goes down.

Otherwise, he obviously dies in a pure slugfest due to the invulnerability and strenght superiority. Juggernaut can raise his strength to whatever he wants. He can theoretically surpass Superman.

Fangirl is right that Orion doesn't always get into brawls. He has a marked tendency to do it, but it's usually a matter of honor/bloodlust with him. He'll figure out pretty fast that he can't hurt Juggernaut and try other tactics.

Aside from his MB or boomtubing something to throw at Juggs, it's either a loss for Orion in a slugfest, or stalemate as he stays out of reach.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I guess people are going to start saying Juggernaut>Superman...........

Originally posted by Nihilist
juggernaut does what darkside failed at.

wtf are you all talking about?supes being weaker than juggy?B.S!!!! supes pwns juggy wiv one punch.

Originally posted by carnage52
wtf are you all talking about?supes being weaker than juggy?B.S!!!! supes pwns juggy wiv one punch.

It wasn't official, the defeat of Juggy by Superman, or WW for that matter.

🙂

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It wasn't official, the defeat of Juggy by Superman, or WW for that matter.

🙂

Did Juggernaut fight wonderwoman in a crossover? I have seen pics, but I never knew where it came from. Spiderman and Wonder Woman were there too.

Originally posted by Nihilist
juggernaut does what darkside failed at.

✅

Originally posted by Nihilist
juggernaut does what darkside failed at.

Look good in a skirt? 😕

Orion has much more versatility, for the little good it will do him. In a slugfest, I'd give it to Juggernaut, but Orion can fly, can boom all kinds of sheit at him, and can even bury the dude unde so much rubble without even being touched since cain can't fly. Dunno if he WOULD do that though...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Orion has the tools to win this, though no BFR hurts. He can boomtube things to throw at juggs........though I doubt entropy is one of them. If he can boomtube the source's power at juggs, Juggs goes down.

Otherwise, he obviously dies in a pure slugfest due to the invulnerability and strenght superiority. Juggernaut can raise his strength to whatever he wants. He can theoretically surpass Superman.

Fangirl is right that Orion doesn't always get into brawls. He has a marked tendency to do it, but it's usually a matter of honor/bloodlust with him. He'll figure out pretty fast that he can't hurt Juggernaut and try other tactics.

Aside from his MB or boomtubing something to throw at Juggs, it's either a loss for Orion in a slugfest, or stalemate as he stays out of reach.

sure orion can bfr but it would only happen after a long losing battle against the juggernaut. he would wise up and use his tech to "win" rather than just use it from jump, thats not orion at all. orion personality wise is like wolverine at lest times two, scrappy and willing to throw down. choosing bfr over a street fight isn't like him at all.

Orion is more of a bar room brawler, his history of battling opponents indicates that he would take it to Cain with fisticuffs. He would in turn lose.

In many of Juggernauts bios it says that he has incalculable strength, which means that he is possibly stronger than Superman.

Can superman hit harder than Mjolnir, in Thor's hands? I highly doubt it. In JLA/Avengers, Superman is seen unable to break Crona's barrier with his fists alone, but was able to do so with Mjolnir.

Thor hit Juggernaut on many occasions with the hammer to no effect, once he cleary hit him with all he had in the 8th day saga, and Juggernaut didn't even flinch from that blow.

The only way Orion can defeat Juggernaut is by bfr via boomtube.

IMO Juggernaut and Shaggy Man/The General are similiar characters. Both ungodly strong and nigh on indestructible. Orion got his rear handed to him by Pre-Jobber General, needing his dog to rescue him.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Orion has the tools to win this, though no BFR hurts. He can boomtube things to throw at juggs........though I doubt entropy is one of them. If he can boomtube the source's power at juggs, Juggs goes down.

Otherwise, he obviously dies in a pure slugfest due to the invulnerability and strenght superiority. Juggernaut can raise his strength to whatever he wants. He can theoretically surpass Superman.

Fangirl is right that Orion doesn't always get into brawls. He has a marked tendency to do it, but it's usually a matter of honor/bloodlust with him. He'll figure out pretty fast that he can't hurt Juggernaut and try other tactics.

Aside from his MB or boomtubing something to throw at Juggs, it's either a loss for Orion in a slugfest, or stalemate as he stays out of reach.

I never thought that I'll say this, here it go,

Trickster, good post, it couldnt get any better then this.

💃

To be a dc fan alcoholic you know a lot about juggernaut.

Originally posted by carnage52
wtf are you all talking about?supes being weaker than juggy?B.S!!!! supes pwns juggy wiv one punch.

Originally posted by fangirl101
They already think that.

Hardly. I'm a Juggernaut fan but unless Juggernaut raises his strength/has it raised by Cyttorak then I'd say he looks weaker than Superman.
Maybe people think that because Supes does hold back a lot.