The Official DBZ "Tier" Thread

Started by chickenlover984 pages

Originally posted by superchron
Goku admitted Super Buu was stronger than him, and said he would kill him and Vegita if they fought. Gohan toyed with that same Super Buu.
goku never went ssj3. case in point

Goku admitted he would lose, he knew his own power and he knew Buu was more powerful then him

Originally posted by superchron
Goku admitted he would lose, he knew his own power and he knew Buu was more powerful then him
bullshit, he couldnt handle ssj3, because he didnt want to overload his body, which what happened when he fought kid buu

When he fought Kid Buu, he started at full strength,Buu just wore him down, although SS3 takes a toll on his body, he still started at full power and couldn't kill Kid Buu.

Goku said he would lose

Goku's word>>>>>>>>>>your opinion

Originally posted by superchron
When he fought Kid Buu, he started at full strength,Buu just wore him down, although SS3 takes a toll on his body, he still started at full power and couldn't kill Kid Buu.

Goku said he would lose

Goku's word>>>>>>>>>>your opinion

rewatch/reread, goku was never full power ssj3, thats why he had vegeta stall so he could charge his ki to full power. before he got to full he started losing energy because his body couldnt take it

Originally posted by chickenlover98
as i have siad before heat resistance doesnt affect overall durability. plus that could have just been ki, he could go into space by creating a ki shield around himself
Yeah it does really. Especially when he was being pushed through the sun by 3 Kamehamehas and his own blast.

Goku was never the kind of guy who boasted himself, he was never arrogant and full of himself. If he knows a battle is hopless he will let u know, and he already knew Super Buu was to much despite the combined efforts of him and vegeta. He even rejected fusing with Veg cause he was certain they could take kid buu on there own, even if he was wrong afterwards it still doesnt change the fact they he willing to face him.

On the other hand he wasnt even willing to test himself agaisnt super buu, the same super buu that was played around with by Gohan. So if anything on panel evidence suggest Gohan>>>>Goku.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yeah it does really. Especially when he was being pushed through the sun by 3 Kamehamehas and his own blast.
no it doesnt. like ive said before having a natural resistance to heat doesnt make you invincible. you can withstand up to five thousand degrees, but that doesnt provent you from being shot in the head. for broly it could have just been natural resistance or just sheer ki output

Originally posted by chickenlover98
no it doesnt. like ive said before having a natural resistance to heat doesnt make you invincible. you can withstand up to five thousand degrees, but that doesnt provent you from being shot in the head. for broly it could have just been natural resistance or just sheer ki output
Broly's defense is from his massive Ki...So yeah, it was from Ki output, but that Ki is part of his natural durability in LSSJ form. Broly was sent through the entire sun, by FTL blasts(got to sun in seconds), his durability>>>Any other DBZ character.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Broly's defense is from his massive Ki...So yeah, it was from Ki output, but that Ki is part of his natural durability in LSSJ form. Broly was sent through the entire sun, by FTL blasts(got to sun in seconds), his durability>>>Any other DBZ character.
not necessarily. no dbz char other than broly outputs ki around their body in the manner that broly does, thats why he could fly in space and no one else could. rather that broly was just terrifying and that LSSJ is much much stronger than ssj. but ssj2 is stronger than that

Originally posted by chickenlover98
not necessarily. no dbz char other than broly outputs ki around their body in the manner that broly does, thats why he could fly in space and no one else could. rather that broly was just terrifying and that LSSJ is much much stronger than ssj. but ssj2 is stronger than that
Broly was swatting SSJ2 Gohan like a fly. Broly according to feats is greater than any and all DBZ characters. All DBZ characters get more durability from their Ki, but Broly does it better, his Ki also constantly rises in battle.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Broly was swatting SSJ2 Gohan like a fly. Broly according to feats is greater than any and all DBZ characters. All DBZ characters get more durability from their Ki, but Broly does it better, his Ki also constantly rises in battle.
A: gohan never went ssj2 in the movie. B: even if he had it was stated by vegeta that he was weaker than when he was fighting cell

Originally posted by chickenlover98
A: gohan never went ssj2 in the movie. B: even if he had it was stated by vegeta that he was weaker than when he was fighting cell
Yes he did. Yeah, weaker. But Gohan SSJ2 PWNED Cell until he went Super Perfect, who was still killed by a one armed Gohan. Broly destroyed SSJ2 Gohan, SSJ Goten, and SSJ Trunks EASILY.

Originally posted by superchron
Goku admitted Super Buu was stronger than him, and said he would kill him and Vegita if they fought. Gohan toyed with that same Super Buu.

Sigh, Gohan was doing that before he absorbs Gotenks and Piccolo. Also when Goku admits this he had already absorbed Gohan. That didn't prove a thing

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yes he did. Yeah, weaker. But Gohan SSJ2 PWNED Cell until he went Super Perfect, who was still killed by a one armed Gohan. Broly destroyed SSJ2 Gohan, SSJ Goten, and SSJ Trunks EASILY.
prove that it was ssj 2 gohan. because it wasnt.

EDIT: also do realize, that the saiyan power up still applies to broly. when a saiyan is pushed to the brink of death, and recovers, he is powered up immensely

Originally posted by chithappens
Sigh, Gohan was doing that before he absorbs Gotenks and Piccolo. Also when Goku admits this he had already absorbed Gohan. That didn't prove a thing
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Originally posted by chithappens
Sigh, Gohan was doing that before he absorbs Gotenks and Piccolo. Also when Goku admits this he had already absorbed Gohan. That didn't prove a thing
He also said the same thing after him and Vegeta went inside Buu and pretty much freed their friends. This left Buu in the same state he was in when Gohan fought him, and Goku said he and Vegeta would get killed.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
prove that it was ssj 2 gohan. because it wasnt.

EDIT: also do realize, that the saiyan power up still applies to broly. when a saiyan is pushed to the brink of death, and recovers, he is powered up immensely

I will later. Too lazy.

2. Kay. But that is weird as Gohan said Broly was just as powerful as before, not more or less. But meh.

Top Herald: Super Kid Buu (South kaioshen Absorbed)
High Herald: Super Vegetto (SSJ3 would be a set back)
Mid Herald: Gohan Buu>Gotenks Buu>Ultimate Gohan
Low Herald: SSJ3 Gotenks=Super Buu>Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
Top Herald: Super Kid Buu (South kaioshen Absorbed)
High Herald: Super Vegetto (SSJ3 would be a set back)
Mid Herald: Gohan Buu>Gotenks Buu>Ultimate Gohan
Low Herald: SSJ3 Gotenks=Super Buu>Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku
Oh that's Super Kid Buu...Now my next question....How is Buu of any kind above Vegetto?