Can Broly destroy a universe?

Started by Ridley_Prime8 pages

Again, am still wondering:

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Out of curiosity, does that silly SS3 Broly from the Raging Blast games even have any feats, or is the transformation just a strictly gameplay kind of form like Oozaru Nappa and Raditz? Normally I wouldn't ask that kind of question, but Broly himself is non-canon as it is, so eh...

I WILL NOT BE BURIED!

I haven't played Raging Blast, so I wouldn't know. Raging Blast is a pile of dung compared to Budokai Tenkaichi 2 & 3.
Though Hatchyak (sp?) is in 2, and he's roughly as powerful as Broly.

Also, check youtube brah. Maybe something is on there. srug

~ On a tangent, it would have been awesome if Broly had a LSS3 form. Infinite Energy from the LSS form to supply the huge-ass energy needed for SS3.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Hey, you're the guy who thinks Broly one-shotted that galaxy, when that isn't what the evidence or logic shows.

Says the KMCer that's goin outta his way to deny clear evidence and tries to apply RL logic to a damn cartoon. But I commend ya' fur yur effort, bub.

Here's a thing about Broly, Buu, and universe destruction- they're, what, a billion times more powerful than the minimum needed to destroy a planet? A hundred billion times?

The real universe has withstood energy densities greater than that, much greater. The destructibility of the universe to high power is a feature of their universe, and wouldn't apply to universes without that trait.

Believe it or not, in around 10 or 50 years time (can't remember), man will have the know how to destroy the universe and in truth, is about 9 years away from havin' tech that can create full fledge universes in our own universe. A universe inside a universe, both equal in size yet we and all life, unchanged? It is true.

The RL universe isn't that great, or it is, it's just not unfathomably great in the ways most of us think.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Says the KMCer that's goin outta his way to deny clear evidence and tries to apply RL logic to a damn cartoon. But I commend ya' fur yur effort, bub.

RL logic? Lulz. Try again. You'll eventually get it.
But to save you time, I'm using DBZ logic and evidence, all present in the movie, ma boi.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

RL logic? Lulz. Try again. You'll eventually get it.
But to save you time, I'm using DBZ logic and evidence, all present in the movie, ma boi.

Cool story bro. A galaxy is shown erased in seconds but you say it wasn't for reasons you just made.
Now U mad cuz I don't believe you.

Originally posted by No End N Site

Cool story bro. A galaxy is shown erased in seconds but you say it wasn't for reasons you just made.
Now U mad cuz I don't believe you.

Fair enough, I didn't really state points, to you at least.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
A feat of him busting a galaxy however, is not, not when said 'feat' is really just Broly attacking places in the South Galaxy over a long period of time, resulting in the galaxy slowing getting destroyed bit by bit.
Galaxy busting implies that he could destroy a galaxy in one-shot, not over the course of a long/unspecified period of time, as was the case with Broly. Even then, the South Galaxy wasn't completely destroyed by Broly. Even then, Buu and Freeza could do what Broly did.

So no, it wasn't seconds like the opening scene would have you believe. It was years, and it was established that Broly attacked planets in the South Galaxy when he was young and out of control.
Kai states (in the original Japanese version) that the South Galaxy was under attack, not that it had been destroyed. Even then, some planets, stars and such shit remained.
And you know, in his most powerful form, he never busted anything more than a Planet.

Originally posted by Q99
Here's a thing about Broly, Buu, and universe destruction- they're, what, a billion times more powerful than the minimum needed to destroy a planet? A hundred billion times?

The real universe has withstood energy densities greater than that, much greater. The destructibility of the universe to high power is a feature of their universe, and wouldn't apply to universes without that trait.

In all fairness, DBU isn't noted to be as big as ours. It has what, 4 galaxies in it?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
A feat of him busting a galaxy however, is not, not when said 'feat' is really just Broly attacking places in the South Galaxy over a long period of time, resulting in the galaxy slowing getting destroyed bit by bit.
Galaxy busting implies that he could destroy a galaxy in one-shot, not over the course of a long/unspecified period of time, as was the case with Broly. Even then, the South Galaxy wasn't completely destroyed by Broly. Even then, Buu and Freeza could do what Broly did. .
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
So no, it wasn't seconds like the opening scene would have you believe. It was years, and it was established that Broly attacked planets in the South Galaxy when he was young and out of control.
Kai states (in the original Japanese version) that the South Galaxy was under attack, not that it had been destroyed. Even then, some planets, stars and such shit remained.
And you know, in his most powerful form, he never busted anything more than a Planet.

See this is where I simply can't agree. What you're sayin' is not what was shown. Not to mention the movie actually havin the sound effects of the galaxy being destroyed...playin for the length of the galaxy shown being destroyed. It seems pretty clear that Broly was just f**kin around in the galaxy til' Broly, being who he is (or Paragus's mind control weakinin), just destroyed the entire galaxy.

Just cuz a galaxy was destroyed doesn't mean that stars and planets wont remain. There are clear and lively remnants scattered about space where galaxies once stood stood in our world.
Fun Fact: When our galaxy colides with Andromeda and is destroyed, there's a 'huge' chance, nothin' will happen to our entire solar system and life will go on as usual inside a new galaxy. If this whole universe blew up, there would be 'somethin' left of it.

And all I can say about the collateral damage being inconsistent with that one 'giant' showin', it's DBZ. The feat is still far too large to be thrown out on that basis.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
In all fairness, DBU isn't noted to be as big as ours. It has what, 4 galaxies in it?

Yea, I think that was it. So it's not surprising it works on different rules.

Originally posted by No End N Site
See this is where I simply can't agree. What you're sayin' is not what was shown. Not to mention the movie actually havin the sound effects of the galaxy being destroyed...playin for the length of the galaxy shown being destroyed. It seems pretty clear that Broly was just f**kin around in the galaxy til' Broly, being who he is (or Paragus's mind control weakinin), just destroyed the entire galaxy.

Just cuz a galaxy was destroyed doesn't mean that stars and planets wont remain. There are clear and lively remnants scattered about space where galaxies once stood stood in our world.
Fun Fact: When our galaxy colides with Andromeda and is destroyed, there's a 'huge' chance, nothin' will happen to our entire solar system and life will go on as usual inside a new galaxy. If this whole universe blew up, there would be 'somethin' left of it.

And all I can say about the collateral damage being inconsistent with that one 'giant' showin', it's DBZ. The feat is still far too large to be thrown out on that basis.

No, what was shown was the time lapse of the galaxy (specifically planets in said galaxy) being attacked by Broly as he was growing up (which was established later in the movie). You see fragments in random places disappear, not uniformly as one would expect from an attack that could bust a galaxy in one shot. No such attack exists in the DBU.
What you saw was poor dubbing (Kai stating that the Galaxy had been destroyed in the FUNimation Dub, as opposed to being attacked right now, as it is in the original Japanese version) giving rise to incorrect assumptions that the galaxy had been destroyed so quickly.

You accused me of using RL logic, yet here you use it to justify a point? I smell bullshit and a hypocrite, and it's coming from your direction.
Fun Fact: Sound cannot travel through empty space. So it's clear the sound effects were just for show and not meant to potray the galaxy being destroyed so quickly. doped

Clearly the attack was meant to destroy the galaxy, as you put it, and King Kai states as such in the FUNimation dub. Yet King Kai and Goku both make reference to the fact that the supposedly destroyed Galaxy still exists, despite King Kai earlier stating that the Galaxy had been destroyed completely (in the poorly dubbed FUNimation version of course). No such contradiction occurs in the Original version.

No, not only is the 'feat' ridiculous, even by DBU proportions, but it non-existant, and blown to ridiculous proportions by fan-wankers, seeing as galaxy busting isn't what really happened.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, I think that was it. So it's not surprising it works on different rules.

Well yeah.

Given enough time and free reign, anyone above Saiyan Saga Vegeta & Form 1 Freeza could destroy the Universe, but they couldn't bust it in one shot.

Have you ever seen Broly destroy a universe?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I haven't played Raging Blast, so I wouldn't know. Raging Blast is a pile of dung compared to Budokai Tenkaichi 2 & 3.
Though Hatchyak (sp?) is in 2, and he's roughly as powerful as Broly.

Also, check youtube brah. Maybe something is on there. srug

~ On a tangent, it would have been awesome if Broly had a LSS3 form. Infinite Energy from the LSS form to supply the huge-ass energy needed for SS3.


Yeah, that's why I didn't get it either. The moment the games started focusing on wanking Broly more (and Vegeta if you include his SS3 form) instead of having a whole bunch of characters like Tenkaichi 3 did was when I lost interest pretty much, aside from Burst Limit which felt like an incomplete game to me like MKvsDC.

Hmm, all right. Will probably try that later, but I'm betting that SS3 Broly is just a strictly gameplay form that has no feats. Just wanted to be sure though.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Have you ever seen Broly destroy a universe?

Is that a rhetorical question? Regardless, nope.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
No, what was shown was the time lapse of the galaxy (specifically planets in said galaxy) being attacked by Broly as he was growing up (which was established later in the movie). You see fragments in random places disappear, not uniformly as one would expect from an attack that could bust a galaxy in one shot. No such attack exists in the DBU.
What you saw was poor dubbing (Kai stating that the Galaxy had been destroyed in the FUNimation Dub, as opposed to being attacked right now, as it is in the original Japanese version) giving rise to incorrect assumptions that the galaxy had been destroyed so quickly.

You accused me of using RL logic, yet here you use it to justify a point? I smell bullshit and a hypocrite, and it's coming from your direction.
Fun Fact: Sound cannot travel through empty space. So it's clear the sound effects were just for show and not meant to potray the galaxy being destroyed so quickly. doped

Clearly the attack was meant to destroy the galaxy, as you put it, and King Kai states as such in the FUNimation dub. Yet King Kai and Goku both make reference to the fact that the supposedly destroyed Galaxy still exists, despite King Kai earlier stating that the Galaxy had been destroyed completely (in the poorly dubbed FUNimation version of course). No such contradiction occurs in the Original version.

No, not only is the 'feat' ridiculous, even by DBU proportions, but it non-existant, and blown to ridiculous proportions by fan-wankers, seeing as galaxy busting isn't what really happened.

And this is what I mean by makin shit up. Nothin you say can prove your claim. You are goin outta yur way to make up reasons (decent reasons, I admit), to somethin that was shown happenin. Nothin you said disproves what was shown, unfortunately for you.

iorilmaoWhy U so mad? I used RL logic to drop some knowledge on you, lettin you know that just cuz a galaxy was destroyed doesn't mean there will be blank space where it was. I aint the one tryin to use it to disprove somethin that actually happened in a cartoon. If it happened, it happened. Do like James Brown said and "Deal Wit It".

Again, just cuz a galaxy is destroyed, doesn't mean nothin will be left where it was.

And I was already aware of your "fun fact" (redundant fact) but here's one for you, that you clearly are not aware of. Sound in space, has been occurin in fiction since the 1st Sci-Fi film.

So yea, HOLD DAT!!!😆

definetly but it would take forever