Blade vs. Captain America

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the fact the period of silence was broken by his first thought:

http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica20705lx5.jpg

first tho only movement is smoke coming from the plane, that period of silene is broken at capatain americas first thought where he alos trys to get up

Thoughts don't break silence. Plus notice as Cap is thinking he is down and looks out but he isn't since he's thinking.

Proof? I see none just your speculation.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the fact the period of silence was broken by his first thought:

http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica20705lx5.jpg

first tho only movement is smoke coming from the plane, that period of silene is broken at capatain americas first thought where he alos trys to get up

Originally posted by jinzin
Dude your reasoning as with your evidence sucks. Wolverine wanted to make Duncan suffer a little before he killed him. He had no intention of killing the King of Atlantis either. He was holding back on Blade, otherwise he would have turned his body into meat cubes with his first two attacks.

And about pain.. Logan's ALWAYS IN PAIN. Period. His HF has never been a pain suppressing factor, he's just such a badass that he can ignore pain that would be disabling to other people. This has been evidenced throughout his career. Now I'm not going to continue to go over Wolverine 101 with you when there's thousands of scans in his respect thread to teach you what you clearly don't know.

😂 he bleeds stakes huh? Is that why there isn't one in sight on his person? Wolverine had Blade in a full mount, it would have been incredible for Blade to even get to a stake much less stab him with it, much less correctly.

and wolverine tried to strike blade withe the first strike he was out of range and left himself open for blades attack

I've seen enough of his rpspect hread to know despite his healing factor things ststill hurth im, hes been disabled temporarily by a barrage of bullets, and has admitted he isnt used ot being hit with bullets (wihch is why being shot sent him into that little fury)

in his first fight with dracula blade has sakes coming out of his shoes, yo uthink blade would forget a stake when an essential part of his plan was in fact to stake a vamped out wolverine? not that he needs a stake he could have just as easily broken a piece of wood off of a chair or from the floor

and also what you seem to be ignoring even when wolverine was over blade, blade had both hands free, while wolverine was using one to hold blade down, so Isupposed blade was going to lay his hands flat out and allow wolverine a clear shot at his head, he could of just as easily blocked the claw swipe, but he used his free hands to put the vial to wolverines neck

neither had grudge against ach other nor did they particularly want to fight each other. Neither were fighting at peak conditions (wolverine had just faught omega red and blade had just faught morbius and shield agents)

both got in and equal amount of hits and even if blade didnt bring the vampire fluid, when wolverine was on top of him he had two free hands with which to block his in coming claw strike.

the fight was a draw get over it

Originally posted by jinzin
It doesn't translate that Cap was out at all.. more or less that the moment of silence was nothing more than cap trying to get out from debris.. DD's right you're reaching like crazy.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Thoughts don't break silence. Plus notice as Cap is thinking he is down and looks out but he isn't since he's thinking.

Proof? I see none just your speculation.

we compare bot hof their building explosions, blade was fine in his (even when he was weakened after the explosion) captain america was staggering around trying to escape the building after his

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
all of this is your interpretation, he killed duncan all the same the thing is under the same writer he has faught without claws against poeple he intended to kil, I loe how you assume what wolverine is thinking though despite it not being suggested, no where is it suggested he was going on blade

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and wolverine tried to strike blade withe the first strike he was out of range and left himself open for blades attack

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
I've seen enough of his rpspect hread to know despite his healing factor things ststill hurth im, hes been disabled temporarily by a barrage of bullets, and has admitted he isnt used ot being hit with bullets (wihch is why being shot sent him into that little fury)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
in his first fight with dracula blade has sakes coming out of his shoes, yo uthink blade would forget a stake when an essential part of his plan was in fact to stake a vamped out wolverine? not that he needs a stake he could have just as easily broken a piece of wood off of a chair or from the floor

It wasn't part of some intricate plan. I know you want to believe it was so your fanboyism can continue unhindered, but it was nothing more than a last ditch resort to having his ass kicked from one side of an apartment to the other.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and also what you seem to be ignoring even when wolverine was over blade, blade had both hands free, while wolverine was using one to hold blade down, so Isupposed blade was going to lay his hands flat out and allow wolverine a clear shot at his head, he could of just as easily blocked the claw swipe, but he used his free hands to put the vial to wolverines neck

Wolverine had a grip of Blade's neck. Wolverine's sheer strength alone could have crushed Blades windpipe with the proper force, or broken his neck. Wolverine has repeatidely crushed metal with his grip Blades throat is not more durable than that. Wolverine could have killed Blade any number of times in that fight, NOT the other way around. I don't know why i'm even bothering you're so far gone in your Blade delusion that you think he's more durable than Cap based on some weakass explosion that didn't even hurt normal people.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
neither had grudge against ach other nor did they particularly want to fight each other. Neither were fighting at peak conditions (wolverine had just faught omega red and blade had just faught morbius and shield agents)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
both got in and equal amount of hits and even if blade didnt bring the vampire fluid, when wolverine was on top of him he had two free hands with which to block his in coming claw strike.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the fight was a draw get over it

Originally posted by jinzin
It's flat out stated that Wolverine thinks Duncan's responsible for the death of hundreds of civilians. He was also kicking Duncan in the groin in that fight, there's far more suggestion that Wolverine was out to punish then there is for Cap being KOed hypocrite.

Yeah that's what happened, Because Wolverine has no grasp on his own range, being so inexperienced unskilled and slow. 🙄
You don't know the first thing about Wolverine,

Again no shit... Wolverine can be in pain, but the man has a .. PAIN TOLERANCE... there's nothing THAT impressive about him walkng through blades sword, or ignoring the handgun shots hitting him.
He's been doing that since before bone claw.. to insinuate that it was purely the result of an uber written HF is just stupid. And bias like crazy.

It wasn't part of some intricate plan. I know you want to believe it was so your fanboyism can continue unhindered, but it was nothing more than a last ditch resort to having his ass kicked from one side of an apartment to the other.

Wolverine had a grip of Blade's neck. Wolverine's sheer strength alone could have crushed Blades windpipe with the proper force, or broken his neck. Wolverine has repeatidely crushed metal with his grip Blades throat is not more durable than that. Wolverine could have killed Blade any number of times in that fight, NOT the other way around. I don't know why i'm even bothering you're so far gone in your Blade delusion that you think he's more durable than Cap based on some weakass explosion that didn't even hurt normal people.

What?! Blade didn't "just" fight Morbius and SHIELD agents. That was a good deal before his fight with Wolverine.

Yes.. he's going to use his free Adamantium claw-blocking hands... 😐

It wasn't a draw, but if that helps you sleep at night. 🙄

the fact is the period of silence was broken when captain america made his first moments, and had his first thought buble, ILl leave that up for interpretation, the fact is he says it wouldve kille dhim

there is no evidence t osupport we didnt want to kill him immediately, notihng is stated, you assume based on what wlverine chose t odo he didnt want to kil hi mimmediately, absolutely no evidence at all,

and wolverine missed, because of that I dont know anything about wolverine? blade move ou of range fast eough and the reacted fast enough to gain a hit on wolverine,

and wolverine has been shown to be in muc hpain after a sword strike, I can deal with him being able to recover fast from the sword wound, but walking up on it is the artist depicting him with a very high level of pain tolerance- his pain tolerance changes (when deadpool stabbed him with a sword he reacted differently, it didnt stop him but he reacted with pain)

and again you have no proof, your interprettin the fight based on how you like it, the fact isthe fight was a stalemate. and how else was blade supposed t oget wolverine close enoug hto use the vampire fluid? it was barely a last ditch effort as he still had many options left open for him, such as throwing wolverine off him with his two free hands, blocking the sword strike and/or another punch to wovlerine face (which knocked wolverine back the last time)

and blades structure i s extremely durable, his grip wasnt very tight if blade was bale to talk, and wolverine head was i nreach of bot hof blades hands, yo ukeep talking of tihngs wolveirne couldve done, blade has just as many options, blade can hit a vampire heart easily, so why did he strike wolverine abdomen rather than his heart with his blade, blade has held up and thrown vampires muc hheavier than wolverine, its wouldve been easy for blade to throw wolverine off him, but he wanted wolverine cloe enoug hto use the fluid - all I am doing is speculating same as you none of what either of us is saying about the fight happened, the fight ened up a stalemate and was written as astalemate because the writer has respect for both charaters

barely, blade faught omrbius and siheld the day before going after wolverine, wolverines fight with omega red also happened a whlie ago as shield knew he had been staying in his apartment in brooklyn some time before

he doesnt need to use his hands to block the blow he could just grab wolverines arm to sto pthe blow and fling wolverine off him - he has the strength feats to prove it.

figth was a draw it was stated to be tha tway a vast majority see it as a draw save for you who is an obvious wolverine fanboy

I have more wolverine comics than blade, I dont readthe story wit ha bias for either - I reaead the story as it happened, and it was stated to be a stalemate. even if yo ubelieve wolverine would beat blade in a fight, nothing in this fight suggests it.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
there is no evidence t osupport we didnt want to kill him immediately, notihng is stated, you assume based on what wlverine chose t odo he didnt want to kil hi mimmediately, absolutely no evidence at all,

Perhaps you think differently but to those of us who know about Wolverine's morality and how he deals with other hero types, we know better.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and wolverine missed, because of that I dont know anything about wolverine? blade move ou of range fast eough and the reacted fast enough to gain a hit on wolverine,

Blade didn't move out of range, he was moving forward when Wolverine struck. 🤨
Wolverine didn't "miss" and the fact that you think he did shows your ignorance about Wolverine AND your ridiculous gross overestimation of Blade's capabilities. To insinuate that a man who's cut skintight suits, cacoons, and bodyarmor off of people without so much as scraping their skin simply missed against Blade shows that you either don't know jack shit about Wolverine, or you're being dishonest about what you state you think he's capible of.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and wolverine has been shown to be in muc hpain after a sword strike,

When? When Gorgon jumped him after fighting a hundred hand ninja using poison shurikens?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and I can deal with him being able to recover fast from the sword wound, but walking up on it is the artist depicting him with a very high level of pain tolerance- his pain tolerance changes (when deadpool stabbed him with a sword he reacted differently, it didnt stop him but he reacted with pain)

Again, if you think Wolverine having a massive pain tolerance is simply artistic representation, the result of an uberhealing factor, or anything new you know exactly two things about Wolverine that I stated earlier...

Jack

and Shit...

and Jack left town.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and again you have no proof, your interprettin the fight based on how you like it, the fact isthe fight was a stalemate. and how else was blade supposed t oget wolverine close enoug hto use the vampire fluid? it was barely a last ditch effort as he still had many options left open for him, such as throwing wolverine off him with his two free hands, blocking the sword strike and/or another punch to wovlerine face (which knocked wolverine back the last time)

So far the evidence doesn't fit the theory. What? Blade knew of Wolverine's moral constitution, in spite of SHIELDS files about him being a killer?
Blade knew that Wolverine would hold back on him to draw him in?
Blade knew that Wolverine would stop for a moment to talk to him rather than slash his head off?
His entire plan was banking on Logan's well renound generosity?
Yyyyyyeah I don't think so.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and blades structure i s extremely durable, his grip wasnt very tight if blade was bale to talk,

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and wolverine head was i nreach of bot hof blades hands, yo ukeep talking of tihngs wolveirne couldve done, blade has just as many options,

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade can hit a vampire heart easily, so why did he strike wolverine abdomen rather than his heart with his blade,

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade has held up and thrown vampires muc hheavier than wolverine, its wouldve been easy for blade to throw wolverine off him,

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
but he wanted wolverine cloe enoug hto use the fluid - all I am doing is speculating same as you none of what either of us is saying about the fight happened, the fight ened up a stalemate and was written as astalemate because the writer has respect for both charaters,

No, There's NO speculation in Wolverine holding back against Blade. If he retraced his claws he was holding back. No speculation to that statement whatsoever.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
barely, blade faught omrbius and siheld the day before going after wolverine, wolverines fight with omega red also happened a whlie ago as shield knew he had been staying in his apartment in brooklyn some time before

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
he doesnt need to use his hands to block the blow he could just grab wolverines arm to sto pthe blow and fling wolverine off him - he has the strength feats to prove it.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
figth was a draw it was stated to be tha tway a vast majority see it as a draw save for you who is an obvious wolverine fanboy

Oh PUH-LEASE, you think Blade's on the same level as a guy who was equals with Thor, a whole team of X-Men, Silver Surfer, and Dr. Strange. Think before you throw out the fanboy label hypocrite. You think for an instant I'd have a problem finding posts from 20 different people saying that it wasn't even close to a "draw"?

They'd all be Wolverine fanboys too I suppose. I mean why would anyone think that Wolverine's clearly Blade's superior when he is? What outrageous fanboyism! 😂

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
I have more wolverine comics than blade, I dont readthe story wit ha bias for either

Lol, Just because Wolverine has more one shots than Blade has comics that's also not surprising.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
- I reaead the story as it happened, and it was stated to be a stalemate. even if yo ubelieve wolverine would beat blade in a fight, nothing in this fight suggests it.

And everything in this fight suggests it. Blade's standard equiptment is next to useless against Wolverine. Blade doesn't have the speed to avoid Wolverine's punches. Blade needs a last ditch plot device to have a prayer of taking Wolverine down with a stake since his natural HF makes it impossible to do straight up. And all this against a Wolverine who had to fight someone with deathspores just before this.

Anyway I think it was the intention of the writer to make it a stalemate but the writer is a moron. 90 perecent of the time writers make excuses for characters especially if its their own comic book. The problem is that the excuses for Blade in that fight don't check out too well.

Why is it that every thread that gets sidetracked to involve Wolverine jinzin is involved? Odd I do say. Is there a name for that sort of thing?

The fight was a draw. So let this rest.

Originally posted by jinzin
Logan could have decapitated him... Blade's plan was that Logan was going to take it easy on him? 😕

I don't see how. Regardless of the writer's "intention".

Originally posted by Don Mega
To me it looks like Logan tried to decapitate him but Blade rolled with that claw strike.

BTW Cap wins a close one.

Originally posted by Don Mega
To me it looks like Logan tried to decapitate him but Blade rolled with that claw strike.

I suppose you could interpret it that way. but that still wouldn't explain to two warning hits at the start of the fight or the sock across the room.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Why is it that every thread that gets sidetracked to involve Wolverine jinzin is involved? Odd I do say. Is there a name for that sort of thing?

The fight was a draw. So let this rest.

Because I scan every thread for Wolverine. 😐

Orrrr rather came here knowing I'd find even more incredibly crazed blade fanboyism like every other thread involving him.

Blade won't be Cap.

Originally posted by jinzin
I suppose you could interpret it that way. but that still wouldn't explain to two warning hits at the start of the fight or the sock across the room.

Because I scan every thread for Wolverine. 😐

Orrrr rather came here knowing I'd find even more incredibly crazed blade fanboyism like every other thread involving him.

Blade won't be Cap.

I think it might be close to even especially in scenario one

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
what crazed fanboyism...we respect the character which no one else seems to ave, anywhere in this thread taht blade would easily beat cap,

I think it might be close to even especially in scenario one

You guys think that Blade's on the same level as Pre-Montesi Formula Dracula... a man who was a match for Thor, Silver Surfer, The X-Men, Dr. Strange, and Apoc....

That's rampant fanboyism or incredible stupidity at work. Forgive me for giving you the benefit of the doubt. 😬

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2_YKQGE_U

that video says it all. cap for the win.

I realise that we all like to stick up for our favourite characters, but I think the pro-Blade posters here are getting carried away.

I mean, calling that a draw? I realise everyone's entitled to their opinion, but come on.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
no, the scan states there was no movement i nthe debris until that particular moment, try again

You do know that a person can lie still without being unconcious, don't you?

Originally posted by chilled monkey
I realise that we all like to stick up for our favourite characters, but I think the pro-Blade posters here are getting carried away.

I mean, calling that a draw? I realise everyone's entitled to their opinion, but come on.

Originally posted by jinzin
You guys have stated REPEATEDILY that if X isn't on the same level as Dracula that they can't beat Blade. 😐

You guys think that Blade's on the same level as Pre-Montesi Formula Dracula... a man who was a match for Thor, Silver Surfer, The X-Men, Dr. Strange, and Apoc....

That's rampant fanboyism or incredible stupidity at work. Forgive me for giving you the benefit of the doubt. 😬