Blade vs. Captain America

Started by Phantom Zone45 pages
Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
good point haha, its the ease with which blade did it, then put down dracula right after.

But to be fair is current Dracula as powerful as the one that took down the X-men? I think however you stated that Blade beat old school Dracula though. So yeah thats impressive but I just think in general Caps feats are better and has fought tougher opponents. I think also Blade has been specially trained to beat certain opponents.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678

I'm also curious for superior strength/speed/durability feats on caps part

Dont think hes quite as durable or strong as Blade but hes at least just as fast.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678

and captai namericas hand-to-hand skill doesnt really matter, seeing as blade is a weapon master, why would he go hand-to-hand when he carries several different weapons on his person.

He combines his h2h skills with his shiled and I would expect him to better at using his shield than blade is at his weapons. I also think Caps h2h skills are better than Blades weapon skills.

Wait a sec Blade gets his gun as well?

DestinyGuy678 Senior Member

blade fought the dracula that fought the xmen too, dracula stated blade has fought him constantly throughout his life-time and beat him.

and why would yo uexpect him to be better with his hsield, blade has more experience and is a weapons master, not only that, I doubt captain america could hit blade with his shield.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Has Capt shown mastery of any weapons asside from sheilds?

He used an energy shield for a while that could transformed into several different weapons.

Battlehammer Senior Member

which he never used as any other weapons though.........

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Blades sword is adamantium, the rest is standard

Battle one: Forest and Night
Battle two: standard arena/colosseum start 100 meters apart

Captain America, all day every day.

jinzin Senior Member
Originally posted by namorsubby
his superhuman physicality is superior to cap's peak human physicality though. and he's not too far behind in skill.

Captain America is superhuman. 😐

If you're going off of the preconceived notion that "Cap's just a human", or "Cap's only a peak human" or "Caps just an enhanced human"

Let's get a few things straight... The military made Cap to be the peak of human capabilities.
We DO NOT know what the hell that is, but by all empiracle knowledge it's clearly beyond the scope of human ability.... so Cap IS Superhuman.
Titles like that are meaningless when you can make accurate measures of characters based off feats.... Cap's are superior to Blades in all aspects INCLUDING strength.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Leobama
Fellas, I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, but do we always have to bring up feats? If a character has been longer than another one, of course he should have more feats. The fact is, Blade has SUPERHUMAN strength,
And Captain America doesn't?
Captain "I can launch my shield faster than escape velocity", "Bull down steel doors", and "destroy a wrap of chains that completely surrounds me with ease"....

Out of these two characters which one got stuck by being chained up with a couple of Lousy chains? Wasn't steve.

Originally posted by Leobama
speed,

Again.... Cap moves faster than people can think, see, or anticipate. Cap sees faster and reacts faster than normal humans by a massive amount and on a level that has put Spiderman on the recieving end of 4 seperate confrontations. His speed is grossly superhuman you want to show me evidence where it hasn't been enough to compensate for an enemy of Blades calibur?

Originally posted by Leobama
agility
Cap's as agile as the X-Men's beast, Blade couldn't netogiate Gambit.... nuff said. 😐

Originally posted by Leobama
and a healing factor.
That would matter in a fight?
Show me the scans of Blade's ability to take punishment on a level that Cap will be dishin it: Nerve strikes, shield bashing and slinging. Show me where Blade's healing factor has helped him win battles that would be applicable to fighting Cap.... Spiderman has a healing factor. Beast has a healing factor. Even Angel had a healing factor..... None of them including Blade are on a level that would make even the slightest difference in a fight with the shield slinger, including Blade. Recovery? Of course, but even Cap has a healing factor that helps for that....

Originally posted by Leobama
Cap has never been described as being more than PEAK human.
Shows just how much you know about Cap.
"No human moves that fast" Etc etc.... When you run around since WWII kicking the ass of the Marvel Universe more than a few people comment on your ability and the fact is Cap's never been "just a peak human" either. 😐
Originally posted by Leobama
That's plain and simple. Knowing both of their skill levels and factoring in the superhuman elements, Blade wins the majority, imo.
Factoring in the superhuman elements on one side while ignoring that of the other maybe...
Even if your wildly inaccurate ideal of Cap's physicality was anywhere NEAR accurate, Cap'd still take a slight majority on skill alone.... 😐

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade fought the dracula that fought the xmen too, dracula stated blade has fought him constantly throughout his life-time and beat him.

Ok thats impressive but if Dracula has kicked the Xmens butts you would expect Blade to kick Wolverines butt, thats not what happened when they fought each other. I think Blade would give Wolverine a good fight but I dont think hes beating him and that goes for Cap but it depends on the cirumstance. I think he can win the first fight in the forest but not the one in the arena.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678

and why would yo uexpect him to be better with his hsield, blade has more experience and is a weapons master, not only that, I doubt captain america could hit blade with his shield.

Experience doesnt always mean that you're better. Cap is probably better at using his shield than Thor is at using his hammer in h2h.

Caps feats are just better for example theres this.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7002/captainamericavol407p14dh1.jpg

Blade is good but I havent seen him do anything that good. Also Cap has used his shield to hurt people that are extremely powerful and sometimes hes done it with his barehands such as hurting Korvac, hell Wonder Man only did slightly better.

Blade is good but Cap is the best of the best.

Leobama Senior Member

Sorry jinzin apparently you're a fan and as I said, I wasn't trying to offend anyone. Not saying that you're wrong, but can you tell or show me anywhere that it says that Cap is superhuman in anyway? Personally, i'm not big on feats. PERSONALLY. Not saying that there's anything wrong if you or anyone else likes to count them.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Leobama
Sorry jinzin apparently you're a fan and as I said, I wasn't trying to offend anyone. Not saying that you're wrong, but can you tell or show me anywhere that it says that Cap is superhuman in anyway? Personally, i'm not big on feats. PERSONALLY. Not saying that there's anything wrong if you or anyone else likes to count them.

Whoa dont apologise to him that will just make his ego grow even bigger.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Jinzin does not have an ego at all.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Jinzin does not have an ego at all.

Mind your own business, im not talking to you.

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Whoa dont apologise to him that will just make his ego grow even bigger.
Yea, there's not need to apologize for stating your view. I agree with him actually.

Leobama Senior Member

Lol thanx fellas

jalek moye Ti Lun
Originally posted by Leobama
Sorry jinzin apparently you're a fan and as I said, I wasn't trying to offend anyone. Not saying that you're wrong, but can you tell or show me anywhere that it says that Cap is superhuman in anyway? Personally, i'm not big on feats. PERSONALLY. Not saying that there's anything wrong if you or anyone else likes to count them.

well when every one of your feats is above what you are listed for, and when every character he meets states how hes much more. I'll say he's above peakhuman, enhanced human is more accurate or low level superhuman.

But it is a fact that he has superhuman stamina

Phantom Zone Junior Member

Also Cap has stated that he can run just under 60 miles per hour. Marvel universe has stated that peak human running speed is 35 mph.....

jalek moye Ti Lun

yea steve does everything better then blade.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by jalek moye
yea steve does everything better then blade.

I dont entirely agree. Eventhough I agree that Cap is more than peak human, I would think that if somebody is blantantly classified as superhuman they maybe superior but if they are its only marginal. Im sorry but I cant see anything in the comics that makes Blades stats superior at the very most its only slight.

However in terms of skill Cap is significantly superior.

jalek moye Ti Lun

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont entirely agree. Eventhough I agree that Cap is more than peak human, I would think that if somebody is blantantly classified as superhuman they maybe superior but if they are its only marginal. Im sorry but I cant see anything in the comics that makes Blades stats superior at the very most its only slight.

However in terms of skill Cap is significantly superior.

all that means is that hes classifed dumbly. if the in universe stuff considers steve greater then his out of universestuff evrytime i think that says somthing. all of his feats are better then blades. It would be pis if it was a couple but he always does better then what he should.

He was intended to be peak human but that sure changed when he brought back into comics after they stopped using him the first time

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by jalek moye
all that means is that hes classifed dumbly. if the in universe stuff considers steve greater then his out of universestuff evrytime i think that says somthing. all of his feats are better then blades. It would be pis if it was a couple but he always does better then what he should.

Yeah I know....I just dont want to be a dick.

Originally posted by jalek moye

He was intended to be peak human but that sure changed when he brought back into comics after they stopped using him the first time

I dont think he was ever peak human hell when he came out of the Ice Thor, Giant Man and Iron Man had trouble taking him down. 😱