Damn I hate inconsistencies. On multiple occasions Bullseye has been able to hold his own and sometimes defeat BOTH DD and Elektra in hand-to-hand combat. And then he gets beat by Frank? Frank is a great fighter, but he's leagues below DD. Oh, and the adamantium thing happened in Daredevil #196-197, 199.
however, frank has more than held his own against bullseye once they got to know eachother better. frank has even beaten him more than bullseye has beaten frank. in fact, he even crippled Bullseye (atleast for a time being) and would have shot him if he wanted to...or actually he was going to and then just decided to cripple him 😬
not to mention that in to-the-end brawl, frank has humiliated the one person who Bullseye never ever humiliated: Daredevil. in fact, frank has beaten Bullseye in h2h on two occassions that i remember off the top of my head. then of course there is their gunfight towards the end of volume2 of punisher....though my memory is a little fuzzy about that volume.
so all in all, heck no this is far from a curbstomp as some people are suggesting. for those who insist that BE can throw multiple projectiles at frank, i could say the exact same thing about BE....can he dodge a full belt of an M60. maybe...though i highly doubt it. Matt himself shot DD in both legs during his prison stay. so i doubt BE can dodge bullets so to speak.
all in all, on the count that when they actually got to know each other, Frank always has had the upperhand.......i'm going with Frank.
Punisher wins 6/10
oh and i just want to point out something:
there is a big difference in fighting and brawling. frank's your good ol' brawler who fights dirty....isn't above chewing off his opponent's face even. BE and DD are martial artists but frank beat them both because of his brawling. doesnt mean that his knowledge of MA is less or more than BE or DD (probably less, and he's definately less skilled than them both). he just has his own style of fighting.
Originally posted by Sado22
oh and i just want to point out something:
there is a big difference in fighting and brawling. frank's your good ol' brawler who fights dirty....isn't above chewing off his opponent's face even. BE and DD are martial artists but frank beat them both because of his brawling. doesnt mean that his knowledge of MA is less or more than BE or DD (probably less, and he's definately less skilled than them both). he just has his own style of fighting.
Not all the time though. In there first two fights it was MA, but yeah Frank will use dirty tactics if he has to.
Soo Frank got two punches in and grabbed his gun.
in a fight that began with guns, why is what frank did uncalled for?
also, the point here is that Frank CAN beat BE, has, has done it more than once and thus can again.
ha ha. kicked his ass! Going in the respect thread. Third tier my ass. Thanx Sado!
Great scans Saddo-thats our Frank
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
-soaked his gun thrust
-kicked him in the gut
-soaked a punch
-had his head and spine smashed against a wall
-gives BE a [b]mother of all haymakers (can be argued that BE was down long enough to be unable to roll to his feet, and was stunned long enough for frank to pin him down and have him at his mercy)
-pins him down
-puts his gun to his head, could've killed him but shoots his hands insteadin a fight that began with guns, why is what frank did uncalled for?
also, the point here is that Frank CAN beat BE, has, has done it more than once and thus can again.[/B]
Doesn't matter whether or not it was uncalled for it.
Pulling a gun when your fighting someone hand to hand and aiming it at their head ends the fight, no matter what....