Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You are being purposely misleading. Slade has been a "stumbling block" to the JLA because of prep time, and that has no baring on his abilities in a straight fight. Without prep time to aid him Slade is no great shakes. Eddie Friers has stalemated him, Deadshot has stalemated him twice, Azrael has stalemated him, Batman has managed to beat him, even Nightwing has come out ontop twice.
Azrael? How is that a low showing? Azrael is grossly superhuman. And he was stalemating Slade with pure speed and strength, not skill.
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2nd, Calibax was draining Slade.
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Originally posted by Deathstroke
I've been waiting close to five years for you to use something other than Deathstroke's low end feats in debates so I guess it evens out. Also, if you don't like what the people at KMC have to say about it why don't you post this battle over at Herochat or CBR or even Spinsulin and see what the people there think?Just a thought.
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I like what people have to say... they just don't have anything to say on this matter other than 😆. Reading comprehension FTW? I miss longpig 🙁
Originally posted by Badabing
PZ, please stop with the name calling. Answer the questions or ignore the posts.
Ok i'll ignore him.
Originally posted by godking
Frank cannot outprep DSDS = Punisher enhanced nothing Frank can show him what he has'nt seen before.
You're just giving him the benefit of the doubt. The fight that DS had with Batman did not involve any prep and Batman gave him one hell of a fight. Im pretty sure that Punisher can make himself more lethal than Batman in an hour.
If Daredevil needed to hire Shang Chi, Black Widow, Moon Knight and Dagger to take down Punisher im pretty sure hes skillful enough to use prep to beat DS.
Originally posted by llagrok
"If Daredevil needed to hire Shang Chi, Black Widow, Moon Knight and Dagger to take down Punisher im pretty sure hes skillful enough to use prep to beat DS."I wonder how this factors in with prep 😄
But I guess Alfheim is too cool to answer questions.
What the hell. Its shows how resourceful the Punisher is. DD didnt get those guys because Frank has cosmic powers or class 100 strength but because his resourcefulness makes him hard to catch. That resourecfulness can be used in prep. 😐
Also with the other example I gave its not just Punsiher simply breaking into a place it involved taking people out as well. We can see one place was a SHIELD facility so it would have been difficult to break into.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I'd like to see some confirmed hand to hand training Frank recived. 🙂And don't bring me shit like "He did very good against Daredevil he must be skilled !!111"
I see what you're trying to do. Stop it. If you want to see what training hes done go look in the respect thread and thats not even all of it.
Since Frank does not have enhancements and hes done well against DD using his training that is a measure of how good his H2H skills are obvoulsy. Saying that I can't use DD as evidence is illogical.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I see what you're trying to do. Stop it. If you want to see what training hes done go look in the respect thread and thats not even all of it.
I have.
Are a few styles being mentioned supposed to be impressive ? Every respectable fighter knows a few.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Since Frank does not have enhancements and hes done well against DD using his training that is a measure of how good his H2H skills are obvoulsy. Saying that I can't use DD as evidence is illogical.
How do most of his fights against Daredevil prove that Frank is skilled in hand 2 hand combat ? It is pretty much obvious to everybody that Frank isn't on the same level of skill with most skilled fighters in the comics, but his damage-taking capabilities and sheer brutality allows him to hold his own against most of them.
'No more style. No more tehnique. Just ugly. Just me. Welcome to my world'
I haven't even brought the heavy artilery, since at this point, we're still discussing Punisher's level of skill which up until now isn't that impressive.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I have.Are a few styles being mentioned supposed to be impressive ? Every respectable fighter knows a few.
Well first of all he mentioned three and hes knows more styles than that. I just dont have the other scans.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
How do most of his fights against Daredevil prove that Frank is skilled in hand 2 hand combat ? It is pretty much obvious to everybody that Frank isn't on the same level of skill with most skilled fighters in the comics, but his damage-taking capabilities and sheer brutality allows him to hold his own against most of them.'No more style. No more tehnique. Just ugly. Just me. Welcome to my world'
I haven't even brought the heavy artilery, since at this point, we're still discussing Punisher's level of skill which up until now isn't that impressive.
1. He still used technique to dislocate DDs arm.
2. Go back and look at the other fights in the respect thread, instead of just picking one fight.
Originally posted by llagrok
Rest assured, Deathstroke's bones aren't as easily broken as Daredevil's.
He gets 1hrs prep.
Well first of all he mentioned three and hes knows more styles than that. I just dont have the other scans.
First of all what ? I already said that there are a 'few' styles being mentioned, how is the fact that there are 3 of them or more mentioned relevant ? Quit this 'dodging the argument' bullshit.
I repeat. Are a few styles being mentioned supposed to be impressive ? Every respectable fighter knows a few.
1. He still used technique to dislocate DDs arm.
2. Go back and look at the other fights and the respect thread, instead of just picking one fight.
Woah, dislocating an arm. Damn, that is some awsome top-tier martial artist tehnique.
I looked at pretty much all of them. And quit dodging the point. Again.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
First of all what ? I already said that there are a 'few' styles being mentioned, how is the fact that there are 3 of them mentioned relevant ? Quit this 'dodging the argument' bullshit.I repeat. Are a few styles being mentioned supposed to be impressive ? Every respectable fighter knows a few
Already stated that he knows more if I find the scans i'll post them. Anyway in his other fights with DD hes shown skill, not my problem if you can't be bothered to find them.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Woah, dislocating an arm. Damn, that is some awsome top-tier martial artist tehnique.
If you can't figure out the significance of this then its not my problem.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I looked at pretty much all of them. And quit dodging the point. Again.
Then you obvoulsy dont want to see the feats then. Im not going to go and get scans you can find yourself.
I got you off ignore because I read the respect thread and actually gave you the oportunity to debate but f*ck, this is useless, so back you go.
Whatever.
Point is that even if Slade didn't have the superior physicall stats, he'd still completly destroy Frank in h2h combat due to being vastly more skilled.
