hancock vs. hulk

Started by dadudemon5 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
That was exactly the point. Hulk was on the losing end basically the whole fight until he became so stressed that he powered up to a point where he was the stronger of the two. Not sure how Dark-Jaxx or anyone could have missed this, it was plainly laid out.

The batch that Stern used was labeled "strength", basically implying that Abomination would be strength personified.

When they first slam into each other, Abomination wins. Even when Hulk gains the edge for a minute when using the car boxing gloves, Abomination basically says "that's all?" and then kicks him through a building. Then Abomination has Hulk pinned to the wall and is mocking him, Hulk is clearly losing and seems to have no way of winning. Then walla, Hulk sees Betty in danger of being burned, his eyes glow for a second, he growls and then overpowers Abomination and lays a beat down. If anyone missed this, they weren't paying attention.

Everything's great about you post. I don't see how anyone could argue about it. 😕

If you watch the movie again, you'll notice that there is a percentage written on the masking tap on that jar/beaker. It says something like Strength 35-50%. I don't remember the exact dialogue by I think Sterns mentions isolating and altering the element of Banner's hulkage. (My own words, lol.)

It was when he first was talking Banner through the lab and just going ape shit about the applications of Banner's awesomeness like curing disease, etc. It's only a minor point of the film but I thought that the beaker with the percentages was supposed to show that the batch was amped...so as to explain why, when both characters at base level, Abom has the advantage.

Originally posted by Robtard
Watch it again then, it's there, as is the slice, though it's not much.

Wrong, he stopped bleeding shortly after he pulled it out, by the end of the fight is was just a superficial cut (if that) covered by the blood that spilled when he was initially stabbed.

WTF? You didn't pay attention. Abomination had him pinned to the wall and then the Hulk became more stressed and overpowered him. Simple as that.

"does not require significantly greater strength" That is a LoL, what does it require then?

It was a battle of pure strength; Hulk overpowered him in the end, just what Hulk does, that is his ability, he "gets stronger". Your bias is making you make absurd claims.

1. No. 😐 It's not like I own the friggin movie, I saw it, and Hulk did not impress me(his power, the movie was good).

2. Sure, it was no longer gushing blood, stab your arm, tell me if it constantly gushes without stopping. 😬 And let's say he did have advanced healing, it was very minor.

3. He pushed him off, I agreed that he was stronger at THAT POINT, but he would require alot of stress and anger to reach that point again, I can't quite remember, but I think Betty was in trouble of some shit.

4. No, taking a chain and wrapping it around someone's neck doesn't require greater strength than the person you are doing it to, the fact that Hulk was standing over him and behind him with a chain wrapped around Abom's neck gives Hulk an extreme leverage advantage, go try it on someone stronger and bigger than you, bet it works.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No. 😐 It's not like I own the friggin movie, I saw it, and Hulk did not impress me(his power, the movie was good).

2. Sure, it was no longer gushing blood, stab your arm, tell me if it constantly gushes without stopping. 😬 And let's say he did have advanced healing, it was very minor.

3. He pushed him off, I agreed that he was stronger at THAT POINT, but he would require alot of stress and anger to reach that point again, I can't quite remember, but I think Betty was in trouble of some shit.

4. No, taking a chain and wrapping it around someone's neck doesn't require greater strength than the person you are doing it to, the fact that Hulk was standing over him and behind him with a chain wrapped around Abom's neck gives Hulk an extreme leverage advantage, go try it on someone stronger and bigger than you, bet it works.

If I were to stab my chest comparable to how Hulk was stabbed, it would gush blood for quite some time. It certainly wouldn't stop a few seconds after, especially if I was active like Hulk was and my heart was pumping. His healing was sufficient, he was hurt, it healed right after. Not sure why you keep going on and on about this. Seems you're reaching for reasons.

He was stronger in the end, which is the point. Hulk + stress = more strength. If you're still more impressed by Abomination's strength, you really have no basis for it, the Hulk was/is stronger.

Not sure why you're going on and on about this chain business either, the Hulk was weaker than Abomination in the beginning, then he overpowered him, you even agreed above.

Originally posted by Robtard
If I were to stab my chest comparable to how Hulk was stabbed, it would gush blood for quite some time. It certainly wouldn't stop a few seconds after, especially if I was active like Hulk was and my heart was pumping. His healing was sufficient, he was hurt, it healed right after. Not sure why you keep going on and on about this. Seems you're reaching for reasons.

He was stronger in the end, which is the point. Hulk + stress = more strength.

Not sure why you're going on and on about this chain business either, the Hulk was weaker than Abomination in the beginning, then he overpowered him, you even agreed above.

1. I concede this point, Hulk has a HF, but still a fairly weak one IMO.

2. I know.

3. I am just saying, the way he beat Abom does not require greater strength even if he had it.

This is besides the point of this thread anyway, Abom never showed Hancock level strength either, so Hancock still wins.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. I concede this point, Hulk has a HF, but still a fairly weak one IMO.

2. I know.

3. I am just saying, the way he beat Abom does not require greater strength even if he had it.

This is besides the point of this thread anyway, Abom never showed Hancock level strength either, so Hancock still wins.

How was it weak? He was hurt, it healed, rather fast too. Is it going to take for the movie Hulk to have the majority of his mass removed only to recover within a minute before you see that Hulk is Hulk. Marvel had input the ****ing movie, I'm willing to bet they know their character.

Groovy.

He had to overpower Abomination BEFORE he used the chain, that required "greater strength".

Yeah, probably, like I said, I'll wait until I see the film for final judgement though.

Originally posted by Robtard
How was it weak? He was hurt, it healed, rather fast too. Is it going to take for the movie Hulk to have the majority of his mass removed only to recover within a minute before you see that Hulk is Hulk. Marvel had input the ****ing movie, I'm willing to bet they know their character.

Groovy.

He had to overpower Abomination BEFORE he used the chain, that required "greater strength".

Yeah, probably, like I said, I'll wait until I see the film for final judgement though.

1. Well I mean compared to comic Hulk of course. Most comic characters are rather weak in movie form, like the Juggernaut.

2. I know, I am just saying the way he beat Abom with the chain does not.

3. Meh...Based on what I have seen I still think Hancock takes it. So far I haven't really seen a limit to his powers.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Well I mean compared to comic Hulk of course. Most comic characters are rather weak in movie form, like the Juggernaut.

2. I know, I am just saying the way he beat Abom with the chain does not.

3. Meh...Based on what I have seen I still think Hancock takes it. So far I haven't really seen a limit to his powers.

I've see a total of two previews for the movie, both in the theater. If you gathered, hancock seems to fight a female version of the super power of himself. Also, he said that he was the only one of his kind...so I assume a hot chick and Hancock fight. It is a blond lady.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I've see a total of two previews for the movie, both in the theater. If you gathered, hancock seems to fight a female version of the super power of himself. Also, he said that he was the only one of his kind...so I assume a hot chick and Hancock fight. It is a blond lady.
I have seen a few previews, one in theater, I don't remember him fighting a hot chick though.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I've see a total of two previews for the movie, both in the theater. If you gathered, hancock seems to fight a female version of the super power of himself. Also, he said that he was the only one of his kind...so I assume a hot chick and Hancock fight. It is a blond lady.
no thats the guy who is helping hims wife...not a villain, according to wikipedia they have an affair

I'll wait until the movie actually comes out.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I've see a total of two previews for the movie, both in the theater. If you gathered, hancock seems to fight a female version of the super power of himself. Also, he said that he was the only one of his kind...so I assume a hot chick and Hancock fight. It is a blond lady.

Spoiler:
Charlize Theron
is the other super-powered person in the movie.

Originally posted by Robtard
Spoiler:
Charlize Theron
is the other super-powered person in the movie.
I thought said person is
Spoiler:
the publicist's wife, the one that helps Hancock?
Originally posted by Robtard
Spoiler:
Charlize Theron
is the other super-powered person in the movie.

That's the name. Yeah, I knew that person looked famliar....

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I thought said person is
Spoiler:
the publicist's wife, the one that helps Hancock?

They're one and the same. I named the actress.

Originally posted by Robtard
They're one and the same. I named the actress.
Oh. Coolio.

Hancock and Hulk would keep fighting eachother, but I'm sure that eventually after like 3 days, Hulk will turn back in to Banner and then Hancock will knock him really far in the sky like he did in the preview except for he won't catch him.

Originally posted by A Dose Of Vraya
Hancock and Hulk would keep fighting eachother, but I'm sure that eventually after like 3 days, Hulk will turn back in to Banner and then Hancock will knock him really far in the sky like he did in the preview except for he won't catch him.
IMO Hancock has shown enough strength to physically manhandle Hulk.

hancock speedblitz ftw.

in one of the perviews it said he was turning back into human "bleeding and stuff"

He does, that would be irrelevant to this fight though.

His absorbing the freight train hit without moving an inch was impressive though, he seems to have the god-like resistance of Silver-Age Superman.