Originally posted by quanchi112I really didn't like that fight either because Ion should not have gotten bitched like that but WWh fought like a bulky watered down version of Captain America threw out the whole story and everybody else fought like Doomsday clones except for the X-Men.
He hit him harder than anyone has before proving WW Hulk's durability and healing are off the hook.Lots of guys just brawl in comics. Basically the Prime/Ion fight was like that as well.
Originally posted by iceman24567See I think he should have gotten beaten like that.
I really didn't like that fight either because Ion should not have gotten bitched like that but WWh fought like a bulky watered down version of Captain America threw out the whole story and everybody else fought like Doomsday clones except for the X-Men.
I dont think everyone was watered down. Hulk was more powerful than he ever had been and if they had beaten him in the past it didnt matter as he was that much more.
All it makes me really wonder is could Sentry break Colossus' arms like Hulk did. That and who could beat Logan faster. Even if it was a Skrull Blackbolt Hulk still took an attack that knocked a large chunk out of the moon, and really how many of the people he fought had he not already beaten or at least stalemated. So it's not like beating them was a big deal if he's more powerful than he was any other time. The only problem I really had was the part involving Strange. He could have ended it anytime he wanted yet doesn't and then suddenly looses because he tries to fight it out but looses control.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Its been shown that Sentry's calming aura is what helps to counter WWH's rage levels and is the primary reason for WWH's revert to Banner.Keep in mind, theres a more than a few DC fanboys who will claim WWH somehow "burnt out" which is false as well as contradictory to Hulk's character....as right after taking on Sentry, Banner reverts to Hulk again and becomes even more powerful.
Reed Richards tried to replicate Sentry to utilize his calming presence but WWH saw right through it.
QFT. WWH when he fought sentry was not evn at his angriest as he showed he could get much angrier later on in the book. The idea of him being burnt out is plainly stupid and contradictory the hulks history.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
And that is sort of his only feat. He has practically none in direct physical combat with another being.
It's still a feat, to go with his other superhuman travel speeds. The way he fought Wolverine also makes it seem like he has superhuman speed.
Either way, he can still travel at lightspeed. Which means that he should be able to catch the Hulk off guard.
Originally posted by llagrok
It's still a feat, to go with his other superhuman travel speeds. The way he fought Wolverine also makes it seem like he has superhuman speed.Either way, he can still travel at lightspeed. Which means that he should be able to catch the Hulk off guard.
He did catch hulk off guard once though. And really until i see some more actual battle speed feats i cant assume hes got battle speed. Ive never really seen him speedblitz anyone.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
He did catch hulk off guard once though. And really until i see some more actual battle speed feats i cant assume hes got battle speed. Ive never really seen him speedblitz anyone.
Speedblitzing=/=catching someone off guard And what do you put into "battle speed"? Flying and hitting the ulk at superspeed shouldn't be a problem at all. Combat speed or not.
You can keep grasping as much as you want.
Originally posted by llagrok
Speedblitzing=/=catching someone off guard And what do you put into "battle speed"? Flying and hitting the ulk at superspeed shouldn't be a problem at all. Combat speed or not.You can keep grasping as much as you want.
No, i consider a speedblitz to be a continuous process of hitting someone before they can react. Not simply catching them off guard. And also we have seen no proof that the sentry has flash or evn surfer like manoevrability while moving fast. All we have really seen is his straight line travel speed and nothing more. How many times have you seen the sentry continuoulsy hitting a person at superspeed? In order to initiate a speedblitz it takes more than the ability to fly fast. This should be common knowledge by now.
Originally posted by llagrok
Speedblitzing=/=catching someone off guard And what do you put into "battle speed"? Flying and hitting the ulk at superspeed shouldn't be a problem at all. Combat speed or not.You can keep grasping as much as you want.
battle speed is rarely shown in comics....Which is why we have seen Superman get tagged by Solomon Grundy, Batman, Hawkman, Graak, etc.
If he is so far above everyone in combat speed he should never ever get hit.....ever by anyone.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Its been shown that Sentry's calming aura is what helps to counter WWH's rage levels and is the primary reason for WWH's revert to Banner.Keep in mind, theres a more than a few DC fanboys who will claim WWH somehow "burnt out" which is false as well as contradictory to Hulk's character....as right after taking on Sentry, Banner reverts to Hulk again and becomes even more powerful.
Reed Richards tried to replicate Sentry to utilize his calming presence but WWH saw right through it.
He wasn't using his calming influences in the fight, Sentry was there TO FIGHT. Stop trying to make it look like a much higher feat for Hulk, there was no indication that Sentry was using this "power" quite the reverse 😬
I say this and I'm not a DC fanboy, 90% of the comic I buy are Marvel.