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Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
No, I would not. We need new blood in the Oval Office.In fact, I would almost say that it's about time for a Democrat to be president.
P.S. Stealthtroll is stealthy.
What's up Zeal? Long time no see, buddy.
Anyway. Yes, it think that a democrat will most definitely be president.
I swear, everyone is falling for the "Obama is a Muslim/evil" shit. Even my brothers and sisters are. Everywhere I turn I'm getting, Obama won't do the pledge of allegiance. Obama doesn't salute the American flag. Obama is a Muslim....etc. etc.
Regardless, I still think Obama will be our next president. Bush is done and consequently, so are the Republicans.
Originally posted by dadudemon
What's up Zeal? Long time no see, buddy.Anyway. Yes, it think that a democrat will most definitely be president.
I swear, everyone is falling for the "Obama is a Muslim/evil" shit. Even my brothers and sisters are. Everywhere I turn I'm getting, Obama won't do the pledge of allegiance. Obama doesn't salute the American flag. Obama is a Muslim....etc. etc.
Regardless, I still think Obama will be our next president. Bush is done and consequently, so are the Republicans.
That crap mostly comes from Christians who are supposed to be tolerant, oh well.
Snopes has a "bust" on pretty much every Obama myth, from him evil Muslim terrorist supporting ways to his supposed white-hating anti-Americanism.
Originally posted by Robtard
That crap mostly comes from Christians who are supposed to be tolerant, oh well.Snopes has a "bust" on pretty much every Obama myth, from him evil Muslim terrorist supporting ways to his supposed white-hating anti-Americanism.
Thanks. And, I know. I refer them (anyone else spouting that refuse) to go to that snopes article and then give me real reasons why they don't like Obama. Tomorrow, I visit a guy who has pretty much told me everything about Obama that is on that snopes site. I wonder what he'll do when he sees it? LOL!
Originally posted by KidRock
Over McCain and Obama?Yeah, probably.
The economy, the war and foreign relations have been getting progressively worse these last 8 years, what would you really expect to happen having four more years under the same leadership/direction? I'm sincerely curious to know your opinion on this.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Snopes is part of the liberal media. You should check out President Bush's own collection on there.
I have.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/bush.asp
I am a big fan of Snopes. I became one when Robtard showed me that the cell phone "selling of numbers" e-mail was a hoax.
Originally posted by Robtard
The economy, the war and foreign relations have been getting progressively worse these last 8 years, what would you really expect to happen having four more years under the same leadership/direction? I'm sincerely curious to know your opinion on this.
Things could get worse under the policies of Obama and I believe they will. 50% of Americans own stock, Obama wants to double the capital dividends tax. Taking MORE money out of the pockets of 152,000,000 Americans doesn't sounds very economically sensible to me. Also all of his big spending during an incoming recession doesn't sound too great either. I also am not a fan of his decision to cut funding to our Missile Shield.
Same goes for McCain. I have plenty of problems with him especially when it comes to immigration as well as his decision to stay in Iraq. I could care less who wins this election. I am looking forward to '12 hoping someone else emerges as a better candidate.
But as I said I would vote for Bush over these two clowns, but not for him if there was a candidate I really liked.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex NihiloThere are a lot of great ones in the Bush section, although proclaimed as false, are still really funny.
Snopes is part of the liberal media. You should check out President Bush's own collection on there.
President George W. Bush proclaimed, "The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur."
Hoping to attract the singer's attention at the March 2002 Presidential Gala, George W. Bush waved at Stevie Wonder.
Originally posted by chithappens
WtF are you talking about
http://www.commondreams.org/views/072600-101.htm
"Nearly half of all American households participate in the stock market."
1) The link is 8 years old.
2)
Nearly half of all American households participate in the stock market. Some manage their own portfolios. Some hold stock through 401(k) plans, or other tax-advantaged accounts. Only 32 percent of households owned stocks in 1989. But there are other numbers.Despite the impressive growth in stock ownership, more than half of American households still do not possess a single share. And those that do generally don't have the kind of portfolio that would replace the level of security found in government programs. Of Americans who do own stock, half have portfolios valued at $50,000 or less. Without Medicare to pick up the bill, a heart-bypass operation with minor complications would wipe out the entire $50,000.
The way the article puts it is incredibly misleading. This is a very board understanding of playing the stock market. In my vernacular, saying "participate in the stock market" would including owning shares (also, owning A share is next to nothing. do you know how this stuff works?). Having a 401(k) is a very liberal way of saying "nearly half of Americans participate."
What are the exact numbers?
Besides, this is the part you should have quoted:
One trembles to contemplate what would happen in an economic downturn in which jobs are lost and housing values decline. According to Professor Wolff, middle-income families headed by people between the ages of 25 and 54 years had enough financial reserves in 1998 to sustain their normal consumption for only 2.2 months, down from 3.6 months in 1989. Families in the lower middle class and the lower-income classes had accumulated virtually no financial reserves.
Because this is exactly what has occurred and this is what is affecting people today.