H/P Doomsday vs Thanos w/ Power Gem

Started by Mr Master8 pages

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

Isnt that rune feat from ultraverse?isnt the ultraverse gems not even canon atm?


"non-canon?"

Those are the 616 Infinity Gems, the only Gems there are,
they came from the 616 Universe, went through a dimesional vortex,
and ended up in the Ultraverse.

The Ultraverse is one of Marvel's legitimate Universes:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity_Gems

"taken by an energy vampire (Rune) from an alternate-reality.
In that other Multiverse, they were collected by Loki"

(This is referring to the Avengers/Ultraforce arc)

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We know the Ultraverse is One of Marvel's Universes:

(excerpt from the official Marvel handbook 2007)

"Ultraverse - Alternate Earth" (Earth-93060)

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Originally posted by vlaaad12345

im not ignoring anything
your ignoring that several people weilding the power gem
have not shown inf power far from it actually


Ok, I sense circles building.

Crop circles? 😎

Originally posted by Mr Master
"non-canon?"

Those are the 616 Infinity Gems, the only Gems there are,
they came from the 616 Universe, went through a dimesional vortex,
and ended up in the Ultraverse.

The Ultraverse is one of Marvel's legitimate Universes:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity_Gems

"taken by an energy vampire (Rune) from an alternate-reality.
In that [B]other
Multiverse, they were collected by Loki"

(This is referring to the Avengers/Ultraforce arc)

..........................

We know the Ultraverse is One of Marvel's Universes:

(excerpt from the official Marvel handbook 2007)

"Ultraverse - Alternate Earth" (Earth-93060)

..........................

Ok, I sense circles building. [/B]


Many circles building due to several people having the pg and not having inf power or durability,so why dont we just leave it alone and not waste our time and leave it at thanos wins.

When you say infinite power, do you mean it in terms of omnipotence (all powerful), or in terms of having everlasting power reserves?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
When he got into a fight with Thanos with the Power Gem. This is of course in the future, when Thanos slaughters him faster than Imperiex did.

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Originally posted by vlaaad12345

Many circles building due to several people having the pg
and not having inf power or durability

Warlock erases from existence an entire Universe with the Soul Gem,

yes, with the Soul Gem: (NO IG of any kind, just the Soul Gem)

"Here's Warlock using the Soul Gem
to Alter the Future of the 616 Reality
by destroying the Timeline of the Magus"

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Now, when it comes to energy manipulation and power ...

... the Soul Gem is a joke to the Power gem ... so go figure.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345

so why dont we just leave it alone and not waste our time

and leave it at thanos wins.


I would never do that, unless I can prove it.

I never said who wins btw.

I'm only clearing up the misleading, mis-conception concerning the Power Gem in this thread.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

H/P Doomsday's vulnerability to the destructive energies of entropy is not exclusive. It's not like that's the only type of energy that can defeat him. He was beaten by the Calatonian life-forces that were used by the Radiant. So while he may be immune to those specific energies now, it's obvious from his earlier defeat that H/P Doomsday was NOT immune to every single form of energy except entropy.

He evolved past the Caltonian life-force energies of the Radiant. Ok. Taking it one step further, he may arguably be immune to any energy that consists of accumlated life-force, such as the Uni-Lord's power. But who knows what energies Thanos could muster up and attack H/P Doomsday with? Entropy serves as one energy that even H/P Doomsday could not evolve past. It's arguable that H/P Doomsday is immune to GL energies since the Guardian noticed he was beginning to absorb the energies (although he didn't let DD finish). And it's obvious H/P Doomsday is immune to Darkseid's Omega Effect energies, but it's not automatic that H/P Doomsday is immune to all types of energy.

Now if Thanos were to blast him with the Power Cosmic in limited bursts and allow H/P Doomsday time to adjust while he was still fighting, then yes, H/P Doomsday could arguably become immune and no matter what expenditure of Power Cosmic Thanos unleashed thereafter would be useless. But I believe that if Thanos unleashed a tremendous blast of Power Cosmic on H/P Doomsday from the outset, capable of vaporizing a galaxy, let's say... then I don't think H/P Doomsday would survive. He'd arguably come back, yes. But at that point, Thanos would have won the round per forum rules. And Thanos could utilize all sorts of energies; magical energy, Darkforce energy, Quantum Zone energy, temporal energy (maybe not since Waverider used chronal blasts already?), Negative Zone energies, etc.


Well thought out. 👆

Originally posted by illadelph12

Crop circles? 😎


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Originally posted by horrorwolf
The PG grants access to the user to all strength that ever has, or ever will exist....as well as granting invincibility.

Case closed. This is spite.

I thought I said that?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Prove he can call forth all that limitless energy and use it at one time,just because someone has a limitless battery doesnt mean they can use all the energy at once,its your job to prove thanos with pg is as strong as entropy since your the one who made the claim in the first place,entropy has threatened all that was is or ever will be the power gem by itself hasnt.
Prove that Doomsday can survive limitless energy. Doomsday can be defeated so imo its common sense that someone with a limitless supply does it easily.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
H/P Doomsday's vulnerability to the destructive energies of entropy is not exclusive. It's not like that's the only type of energy that can defeat him. He was beaten by the Calatonian life-forces that were used by the Radiant. So while he may be immune to those specific energies now, it's obvious from his earlier defeat that H/P Doomsday was NOT immune to every single form of energy except entropy.

He evolved past the Caltonian life-force energies of the Radiant. Ok. Taking it one step further, he may arguably be immune to any energy that consists of accumlated life-force, such as the Uni-Lord's power. But who knows what energies Thanos could muster up and attack H/P Doomsday with? Entropy serves as one energy that even H/P Doomsday could not evolve past. It's arguable that H/P Doomsday is immune to GL energies since the Guardian noticed he was beginning to absorb the energies (although he didn't let DD finish). And it's obvious H/P Doomsday is immune to Darkseid's Omega Effect energies, but it's not automatic that H/P Doomsday is immune to all types of energy.

Now if Thanos were to blast him with the Power Cosmic in limited bursts and allow H/P Doomsday time to adjust while he was still fighting, then yes, H/P Doomsday could arguably become immune and no matter what expenditure of Power Cosmic Thanos unleashed thereafter would be useless. But I believe that if Thanos unleashed a tremendous blast of Power Cosmic on H/P Doomsday from the outset, capable of vaporizing a galaxy, let's say... then I don't think H/P Doomsday would survive. He'd arguably come back, yes. But at that point, Thanos would have won the round per forum rules. And Thanos could utilize all sorts of energies; magical energy, Darkforce energy, Quantum Zone energy, temporal energy (maybe not since Waverider used chronal blasts already?), Negative Zone energies, etc.

Nicely done.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
By the embodiment of entropy the guy who was going to destroy and recreate creation....hey look he is the same energy as the only thing that stopped h/p doomsday last time you know the stuff the destroys all life and energy,you cant prove thanos with pg=entropy no matter how hard you try,and I agree h/p doomsday is overrated in strength just not in his durability and ability to adapt to just about anything in the h/p stage,honestly ive never said thanos loses here but hes not oneshoting him the only thing that could ever do that is entropy.

There is absolutely no need to prove that the PG >= entropy. What needs to be proven first is that Doomsday can evolve past everything below entropy, which is obviously something that isn't going to be proven to any satisfactory degree. If I don't get knocked out by a punch from another normal human but get KOed easily by Thing, that doesn't mean that any entity in between can't knock me out.

We all know that each gem has the potential to be omnipotent.
But the gems together makes this potential easier to obtain.
Thanos may be able to tap into the power gem better than others but it still remains to be seen that he can indeed have the potential (with only a nanosecond to react) to one-shot HP DD. Don't count the speed of DD out.

Originally posted by h1a8
We all know that each gem has the potential to be omnipotent.
But the gems together makes this potential easier to obtain.
Thanos may be able to tap into the power gem better than others but it still remains to be seen that he can indeed have the potential (with only a nanosecond to react) to one-shot HP DD. Don't count the speed of DD out.
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Since when does H/P Doomsday have nanosecond battle speed? Come on now...

Originally posted by h1a8
We all know that each gem has the potential to be omnipotent.
But the gems together makes this potential easier to obtain.
Thanos may be able to tap into the power gem better than others but it still remains to be seen that he can indeed have the potential (with only a nanosecond to react) to one-shot HP DD. Don't count the speed of DD out.
Prove he has nanosecond speed. If you cant then its obvious you just make things up for certain characters.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos may be able to tap into the power gem better than others but it still remains to be seen that he can indeed have the potential (with only a nanosecond to react) to one-shot HP DD. Don't count the speed of DD out.

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