I don't think rain is going to stop Human Torch. Well at least in the comics, his ambient temperature melted bullets before they could hit him.
And Torch did screw up Doom pretty badly in F4 even though he survived his attack/Super Nova, he was pretty much melting. Although he needed Sue's help or else he would have killed everyone else.
Originally posted by Placidity
I don't think rain is going to stop Human Torch. Well at least in the comics, his ambient temperature melted bullets before they could hit him.And Torch did screw up Doom pretty badly in F4 even though he survived his attack/Super Nova, he was pretty much melting. Although he needed Sue's help or else he would have killed everyone else.
this thread is in the movie versus forum so actually if the thread starter didnt use th emovie versions they would be in violations of the rules. they are supposed to use movie versions
How do you know that the movie version doesn't have the stated powers of the comic version?
If the movie version is capable of simulating a supernova, effecting raising the temperature to that of the sun, that feat is not very far-fetched is it?
Anyway, the main point is that some rain isn't going to stop Torch.
Originally posted by Placidity
How do you know that the movie version doesn't have the stated powers of the comic version?If the movie version is capable of simulating a supernova, effecting raising the temperature to that of the sun, that feat is not very far-fetched is it?
Anyway, the main point is that some rain isn't going to stop Torch.
How do you know rain cant stop torch?
strom can conjure up storms with enough rain to put him out.
In the rise of the silver surfer when they were chasing the newly powered up dr doom,
dr doom opened up a small typhoon which among tossing the other 3 ships away, put human torches fire out completely and knocked him out of the sky
and youre putting torch against someone like storm?
whose specialty is causing weather patterns like this to occur?
what makes you think storm will give him the required time to go supernova?
she can produce enough rain to quench his abilities.
Originally posted by Man of Christ
How do you know rain cant stop torch?
strom can conjure up storms with enough rain to put him out.In the rise of the silver surfer when they were chasing the newly powered up dr doom,
dr doom opened up a small typhoon which among tossing the other 3 ships away, put human torches fire out completely and knocked him out of the skyand youre putting torch against someone like storm?
whose specialty is causing weather patterns like this to occur?she can produce enough rain to quench his abilities.
Oh boy, I never knew Torch's weakness is rain. Why don't you show proof of that?
what makes you think Torch will give her the required time to go do anything before he melts her?
Originally posted by Placidity
Oh boy, I never knew Torch's weakness is rain. Why don't you show proof of that?what makes you think Torch will give her the required time to go do anything before he melts her?
I just proved to you with movie evidence that water does quench his flame, and that storm is capable of conjuring storms and she can also put him out.
but to answer your question, from looking at the movies it only takes storm 10 seconds max to make a storm but takes the human torch longer to go sueprnova.
If storm see torch start to fly she can also put him out with a gust, or since you gave them a barren field a sand storm ought to do the trick, she has so many ways.
of taking him out
Originally posted by Man of ChristWell said. 👆
I just proved to you with movie evidence that water does quench his flame, and that storm is capable of conjuring storms and she can also put him out.but to answer your question, from looking at the movies it only takes storm 10 seconds max to make a storm but takes the human torch longer to go sueprnova.
If storm see torch start to fly she can also put him out with a gust, or since you gave them a barren field a sand storm ought to do the trick, she has so many ways.
of taking him out
Originally posted by Placidity
No you never prooved that RAIN can stop the Human Torch. So please so proof of it. If you believe you did, than do it again right here, right now.I don't want to know how powerful Storm is, show me the proof that RAIN can stop Torch first.
Originally posted by Placidity
Lol, you're an idiot. Just admit you can't prove that RAIN can stop Human Torch.Until you can do that, don't even talk.
Bashing wont work, i just dont feel like repeating myself.
Its a waste of my energy.
If you like the human torch more than storm, fine but here we are supposed to use logic.
as i stated she could use rain but doesnt need to.
all you do is say to me, "prove this and prove that"
which i did and you sit there with a repetitive pedantic tone lacking for want of knowlege.
Originally posted by Man of Christ
Bashing wont work, i just dont feel like repeating myself.
Claiming other people are "fanboys" won't work either. You don't feel like repeating, because you don't having any evidence to repeat.
Originally posted by Man of Christ
If you like the human torch more than storm, fine but here we are supposed to use logic.
If you like the storm more than Torch, fine but here we are supposed to use logic.
Originally posted by Man of Christ
all you do is say to me, "prove this and prove that"
which i did and you sit there with a repetitive pedantic tone lacking for want of knowlege.
I've only asked you to prove that Torch can be stopped by rain. Which you've repeatedly brushed aside simply because you don't have the requested proof to back your claims.
You've spent so many replies saying you don't want to repeat yourself, when you could've just as easily quoted when you've shown proof to shut me up. So why havent you?
I'm going to give you a hand here and quote everything you've said. Care to point out where you've proven Rain can stop Torch?
If you re read my other post it proves that storm beats the torch, nuff said.
We are using logic here, not fanboyism
Logic? Oh really? Cause I don't see any. Only resorting to calling me a "fanboy" with the hopes of not having to provide any proof.
just did, dont feel like repeating myself just re-read all my postsFanboyism much
Uh huh. Don't see it. Maybe you are the fanboy - making claims without proof.
as you have not responded to any of my perfectly logical points
What? I want proof. Not what you think would happen which you call "perfectly logical points".
I just proved to you with movie evidence that water does quench his flame, and that storm is capable of conjuring storms and she can also put him out.
Still no sign of that evidence buddy.
but to answer your question, from looking at the movies it only takes storm 10 seconds max to make a storm but takes the human torch longer to go sueprnova.
Not proof.
If storm see torch start to fly she can also put him out with a gust, or since you gave them a barren field a sand storm ought to do the trick, she has so many ways.
of taking him out
Once again, your own imagination, not proof. Anyone can say storm does this and that. I still don't see the proof that rain stops torch.
strom can conjure up storms with enough rain to put him out.
Uh huh. And wheres the evidence that rain can stop Torch?
In the rise of the silver surfer when they were chasing the newly powered up dr doom,
dr doom opened up a small typhoon which among tossing the other 3 ships away, put human torches fire out completely and knocked him out of the sky
When the hell did Doom "open up a typhoon" lol. Please don't make stuff up.
And even with your made-up account of events, a typhoon does not equate to rain. So now your saying Torch can be beat by wind?
Don't care at this point. I still don't see proof about rain being able to stop torch.
and youre putting torch against someone like storm?
whose specialty is causing weather patterns like this to occur?
what makes you think storm will give him the required time to go supernova?
she can produce enough rain to quench his abilities.
so you claim. Wheres the proof that Torch can be beaten by rain again? Oh wait, you just keep making baseless assertions.
storm makes it rain which effectively disables pyro and torch.
Proof?
WHERE IS TH PROOF THAT RAIN STOPS TORCH??? (RHETORICAL QUESTION) 😆
Originally posted by Placidity
I have, and you are full of crap. Theres no proof of it.
Originally posted by Placidity
Lol, you're an idiot. Just admit you can't prove that RAIN can stop Human Torch.Until you can do that, don't even talk.
I've told you before, Placidity: Stop bashing.
This is your second warning.
Rewatch the rise of the silver surfer, when they are chasing him over southeast asia, he opens up a typhoon that puts out the flames on torch, and causing typhoons and heavy rains like that are storm's specialty, she can do it efficiently and snuff torch out.
not to mention that she can cause a dust storm and put him out.
you say the fact that torch needs more time to go supernova is not proof.
i say to you that it IS as she can in a quicker time make a tornado and blow him out and with all the sand laying around that will put him out faster.
i dont even like storm or torch but he gets creamed here.