What is with the Democratic tactic of attackng McCains military service?

Started by lord xyz3 pages

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That does mean that he protested his service and therefore was open to the criticism. You are the one who failed by trying to compare what happened to Karry with what is happening to McCain. McCain never protested his country.
Wasn't your country like found and protest?

Originally posted by Robtard
Making a blanket statement of "military service and being a proper president do not go hand and hand" is not a personal attack on McCain, or just McCain. If Obama had a military record, it would encompass him too. If Kerry were running again, it would encompass him too. The statement may even be true, as not every president of the US has had a military service and I'm fairly certain there were a few good ones that didn't serve.

Now the swift-boat adds on Kerry were a personal attack, as they specifically signaled out Kerry and said his purple hearts were bogus, he was a traitor, he was a coward etc. etc. etc. See the difference?

The best ad was the one where a US soldiers, acting poorly, and way younger than Kerry, said how Kerry was a bad man during service and one even said "he shot me".

shhhhh you're not supposed to point out the blatant hypocrisy or you'll be accused of seeking revenge.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

While your statement is true in the broad general sense of the political game, in this particular case, it wasn't an attack or a cheap shot.

Just the reality of McCain/Any Nominee + Military Service doesn't not equal "a good president" by default.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Wasn't your country like found and protest?...

I have no problem with protesting. I just have a problem with people who protest and then wine about having to pay the price for protesting.

Anyone who believes that the Democrats are not doing every underhanded thing in the world to get elected, I have a bridge to sell you.

yes remember, the price of protesting a war after your service has concluded is to have your record slandered and be called a coward/fraud.

so that shrapnel he took...never happened. *poof*

Originally posted by Robtard
While your statement is true in the broad general sense of the political game, in this particular case, it wasn't an attack or a cheap shot.

Just the reality of McCain/Any Nominee + Military Service doesn't not equal "a good president" by default.

Sorry if I don't trust people like Gen. Wesley Clark.

Originally posted by Schecter
yes remember, the price of protesting a war after your service has concluded is to have your record slandered and be called a coward/fraud.

so that shrapnel he took...never happened. *poof*

Anyone who would throw away his medals in a public way, should leave the country. Throwing your medals away is a cowardly act.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Anyone who would throw away his medals in a public way, should leave the country. Throwing your medals away is a cowardly act.

How? Isn't it actually the opposite? A ballsy act? Yes it is.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Anyone who would throw away his medals in a public way, should leave the country. Throwing your medals away is a cowardly act.

What crap.

Originally posted by BackFire
What crap.

Do you have a medal? However, this is off topic. So, maybe we should move it to PM's.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you have a medal? However, this is off topic. So, maybe we should move it to PM's.

It does seem pretty on topic. Do you feel bad about (once more) being caught bullshitting around?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Anyone who would throw away his medals in a public way, should leave the country. Throwing your medals away is a cowardly act.

He was awarded medals for a war he didn't agree with.

1) He has (or should) the right to protest without fear of being told to leave his country.

2) How is it cowardly, when it takes more balls to stand-up for something you know isn't popular than to just keep quite and go with the flow?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you have a medal? However, this is off topic. So, maybe we should move it to PM's.

No I don't have a medal.

What does that have to do with anything? Doesn't change you spewing out nonsense without backing it up in any logical way.

I expect you to say next "if you don't like this country then you can giiitttt out!"

You can not like that he threw away his medals, he still earned them. Saying he's a coward for doing something that you don't like, despite it taking great courage to do such an act as protest, and that that somehow excuses lies and slander made against him by opponents later in his life, is such sheer idiocy that it gives me a headache.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sorry if I don't trust people like Gen. Wesley Clark.

What does that have to do with the fact that a military record is in no way a guarantee of a "good president"?

Originally posted by Robtard
He was awarded medals for a war he didn't agree with.

1) He has (or should) the right to protest without fear of being told to leave his country.

2) How is it cowardly, when it takes more balls to stand-up for something you know isn't popular than to just keep quite and go with the flow?

Because he never lost the medals. All he has to do is request a new set of medals. If you return them in protest, then you loose them forever. Do you see how that is cowardly?

Has he done that?

Originally posted by BackFire
Has he done that?

Yes he did. I asked you if you had a medal because most people don't know that a medal is a document and not a piece of medal. If I lost the one medal I have in a fire, I can get it back by request it.

Oh.

Yes clearly he's a coward. My mistake. Traitor too. Possible murderer as well.

Who cares? They're his medals, he did courageous shit to earn them, to call him a coward because of what he did with HIS property, completely ignoring the heroism that he had to earn them is again, retarded to the point of being laughable.

Still don't see how that makes him a coward. He openly threw away his medals because he didn't agree with the war. That took guts and it's a much more powerful visual than him simply 'returning them'.

Originally posted by BackFire
...is such sheer idiocy that it gives me a headache.

seriously. i mean...i actually had a faint migraine just reading through this horseshit.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Because he never lost the medals. All he has to do is request a new set of medals. If you return them in protest, then you loose them forever. Do you see how that is cowardly?
So, what did Kerry do and why is it more cowardly than what else he could have done?