Originally posted by Raoul
it looked sharp to me... 😛if thrown by aquaman, then yes, it should impale colossus, maybe not clark, but clark is just like that...
Originally posted by darthgoober
How would a steel rod impale Colossus when his organic steel is much more durable than regular steel? That would be like someone trying to impale you or me with a Twinkie, no matter how strong the person wielding it is it's going to smash/collapse before it pierces the skin...
it was strong enough to impale despero... srug
even if colossus wouldnt have been impaled, i still don't see how it makes colossus half as durable given how much blunt force despero has taken with relatively little effect...
there's also the 'straw in the tornado' argument...
Originally posted by darthgooberYeah that'd be like trying to impale a cement wall with a little piece of wire....
How would a steel rod impale Colossus when his organic steel is much more durable than regular steel? That would be like someone trying to impale you or me with a Twinkie, no matter how strong the person wielding it is it's going to smash/collapse before it pierces the skin...
Oh wait... with sufficient force you can launch piano wire through a palm tree, through some ply wood and into the cement wall...
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah that'd be like trying to impale a cement wall with a little piece of wire....Oh wait... with sufficient force you can launch piano wire through a palm tree, through some ply wood and into the cement wall...
No one launched these sharks through any palm trees though:
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Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah that'd be like trying to impale a cement wall with a little piece of wire....Oh wait... with sufficient force you can launch piano wire through a palm tree, through some ply wood and into the cement wall...
Originally posted by ScooblessI believe I said that the felt padded hammers can break piano wire... which is why you need to get them replaced if they should snap.
Are you claiming that piano hammers (whatever they are called) are tougher than piano wire?
And piano wire is made out of spring steel, meaning its more resilient than it is hard.
You know, flexible like a spring.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I believe I said that the felt padded hammers can break piano wire... which is why you need to get them replaced if they should snap.And piano wire is made out of spring steel, meaning its more resilient than it is hard.
You know, flexible like a spring.
Yeah, but it's wrenched tight when pulled over the metal fr..... god dammit .... why am I discussing piano design/maintenance?
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Originally posted by Raoul
it was strong enough to impale despero... srugeven if colossus wouldnt have been impaled, i still don't see how it makes colossus half as durable given how much blunt force despero has taken with relatively little effect...
there's also the 'straw in the tornado' argument...
The "straw in the tornado" argument isn't really just one of force, or speed over distance, but a combination of several factors. It is generally accepted amongst stormchasers and physicists who study this specific area that for the vast majority of such occurences, the tree is bent by perpendicular winds, causing the fibres to stretch, lowering yield strength and forming cracks in some cases, allowing the straw (traveling parallel to the wind) to get jammed in. This is why it is so difficult for straw to be removed after such occurences -- the tree returns to its base shape after being buffeted by the wind.
Brick and metal objects are slightly different. They often happen as a result of inundation by small debris, causing minute cracks which lowers fracture and impact strength, allowing straw or grass to enter. However, there is much that is still induction as tornadoes are not fully understood and the conditions cannot be exactly recreated.
As for piano wire and hammers, that is a different sort of strength, and wear and tear/warping comes into play too. Different set of occurences.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Which explains why it can snap from it being hit by felt padded wooden mallets?
"Piano wire is a specialized type of wire made for use in piano and other musical instrument strings, as well as many other purposes. It is made from tempered high-carbon steel, also known as "spring steel". Music wire is another name for piano wire: it is used for the cores of strings, which may be wound with other materials. Music wire is used for a variety of stringed instruments that use steel strings, such as guitars."
I guess it's possible that concrete is more durable than and equal amount of "springy" steel, but I'd have to see some proof to fully buy it. I'm not asking you to go find proof on it mind you because it has nothing to do with the thread topic, just pointing out my general view on it because I generally consider steel to be the tougher of the substances generic types.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm pretty sure that has a lot to do with how tightly the wire is stretched. And whether it's springy or not, it's still tempered carbon steel according to it's Wiki article(though I guess it could be wrong since it's wiki)..."Piano wire is a specialized type of wire made for use in piano and other musical instrument strings, as well as many other purposes. It is made from tempered high-carbon steel, also known as "spring steel". Music wire is another name for piano wire: it is used for the cores of strings, which may be wound with other materials. Music wire is used for a variety of stringed instruments that use steel strings, such as guitars."
I guess it's possible that concrete is more durable than and equal amount of "springy" steel, but I'd have to see some proof to fully buy it. I'm not asking you to go find proof on it mind you because it has nothing to do with the thread topic, just pointing out my general view on it because I generally consider steel to be the tougher of the substances generic types.
To be honest, no one is going to be able to objectively answer a question on material durability based on real chemistry, because there isn't really a catchall durability for materials.
Diamond, for instance, is the hardest naturally occuring material. However, it certainly isn't the toughest. Jadiete, iirc, has that distinction, but is not as hard as diamond. Besides these two relatively umbrella terms, we also have the various tensile strengths, fracture strengths, impact strengths, buckling strengths etc.
Illustrating using the mentioned examples as parallels, a wheat straw can rend concrete while glass cannot not because it is simply more durable, but because it is "tougher" (using the catchall term). However, a straw cannot cut glass because the latter is "harder".
