“Super Rogue” runs the Gauntlet

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Originally posted by janus77
Surfer can easily split Magneto's forcefield apart at the sub-atomic
I don't think electromagnetic energy has an atomic level structure. sub atomic counting electrons would be the highest level that form of energy exists as I think... Not saying he couldn't do it, just say ing that specifying "on a sub-atomic level" sounds silly when that or photons is what it'd have to exist as.

Re: “Super Rogue” runs the Gauntlet

Originally posted by darthgoober
Rogue absorbs the powers of Magneto, Wolverine, Colossus, Northstar, Sage, Havok, and Multiple Man. Assuming she keeps all the powers for the duration of the Gauntlet, how far does she make it?

1. Martian Manhunter
2. Thor(classic)
3. Superman
4. Green Lantern(Hal)
5. Silver Surfer
6. Despero

There’s a 5 minute break between fights and the only revitalization available is that which comes with her new powers. Rogue’s not allowed to acquire new powers via absorption from opponents or Sage’s “jumpstart” abilities.

Two questions...

1. Does she get the full power from all those characters?

2. Can she use them as proficiently as the original characters?

Originally posted by batdude123
Two questions...

1. Does she get the full power from all those characters?

2. Can she use them as proficiently as the original characters?


Full powers, yes(but not things like Wolverine's adamantium). As for the second I'm not sure. Logic dictates that she SHOULD be able to use them as proficiently as their normal wielder's since she acquires their memories too(and would thus "remember" how to replicate any feat accomplished by them), but power copier's are handled weird in comics and I'm not sure how Rogue's track record goes.

Re: Re: “Super Rogue” runs the Gauntlet

Originally posted by batdude123
Two questions...
2. Can she use them as proficiently as the original characters?

No.

Originally posted by llagrok
No.

Where/when has that been established? I don't doubt your word on it mind you, I'm just seeking positive confirmation because the transfer of actual memories seems to indicate that she'd be just as experienced as the original users.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Full powers, yes(but not things like Wolverine's adamantium). As for the second I'm not sure. Logic dictates that she SHOULD be able to use them as proficiently as their normal wielder's since she acquires their memories too(and would thus "remember" how to replicate any feat accomplished by them), but power copier's are handled weird in comics and I'm not sure how Rogue's track record goes.

Kay. But theoretically, the human mind can only handle so much information. Perhaps all those memories overlap, and she can only be as proficient as her mind allows.

I'm just assuming in Rogue's case of course.

Originally posted by batdude123
Kay. But theoretically, the human mind can only handle so much information. Perhaps all those memories overlap, and she can only be as proficient as her mind allows.

I'm just assuming in Rogue's case of course.


Me too, I'm not sure one way or the other truth be told(that's why I asked grok when her ineptness was established).

Originally posted by darthgoober
Where/when has that been established? I don't doubt your word on it mind you, I'm just seeking positive confirmation because the transfer of actual memories seems to indicate that she'd be just as experienced as the original users.

I've never seen her do it.

In most cases her powers just flare up and she loses control. Like when she absorbed Salvo and started firing his guns wildly.

Originally posted by llagrok
I've never seen her do it.

In most cases her powers just flare up and she loses control. Like when she absorbed Salvo and started firing his guns wildly.


I thought it just took her a minute to handle the influx of past memories and such? I know it takes her a minute to gain control but once she has it doesn't she normally do pretty well? She seems to be using them pretty efficiently here...

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Originally posted by darthgoober
I thought it just took her a minute to handle the influx of past memories and such? I know it takes her a minute to gain control but once she has it doesn't she normally do pretty well? She seems to be using them pretty efficiently here...

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She lost her powers a lot against Vargas, I suppose that's not a good example. Magneto's powers is a good feat, but she has had his powers on several occasions. Salvo and especially Storm are examples of when she was unable to control her powers properly and notice how she has none of Ms.Marvel's energy powers?

She's never had trouble controlling her "physical" powers though, so she'd get the speed, strength and healing bonuses.

Originally posted by llagrok
She lost her powers a lot against Vargas, I suppose that's not a good example. Magneto's powers is a good feat, but she has had his powers on several occasions. Salvo and especially Storm are examples of when she was unable to control her powers properly and notice how she has none of Ms.Marvel's energy powers?

She's never had trouble controlling her "physical" powers though, so she'd get the speed, strength and healing bonuses.

In fatal attractions, Magneto kisses her to no affect on his being, then tosses her aside like the trash bag ho she is. 313

She cant get past surfer. He has more powers than evryone on rogues list combined and on a far higher scale.Board absorption, instant vaporization,Stasis bubble entrapment, Ethel enrgy entrapment,Blackhole creation,Blasting into oblivion,transmutation into a toaster, teleportation into a different millenium, Devolution, Making part of her boy inanimate, phasing and ripping out her heart etc

Originally posted by batdude123
In fatal attractions, Magneto kisses her to no affect on his being, then tosses her aside like the trash bag ho she is. 313

Couldn't swallow all his power

Originally posted by llagrok
Couldn't swallow all his power

mhmm...

Maybe she's not as big of a ho as I thought.

Originally posted by llagrok
She lost her powers a lot against Vargas, I suppose that's not a good example. Magneto's powers is a good feat, but she has had his powers on several occasions. Salvo and especially Storm are examples of when she was unable to control her powers properly and notice how she has none of Ms.Marvel's energy powers?

She's never had trouble controlling her "physical" powers though, so she'd get the speed, strength and healing bonuses.


I'm not familiar with Salvo so I can't comment there, but Storm's lost control of her powers herself a couple of times now hasn't she? If so it doesn't seem like Rogue having a hard time with them is much of an indication IMO.Also, I thought the the 1st panel of the second scan(her in the sky with lightning crashing down around her) to be her using Storm's powers right along with everyone else's, but I guess it's open to interpretation since it isn't outright stated.

And did Ms. Marvel even have energy powers when Rogue absorbed off her?

Originally posted by darthgoober

And did Ms. Marvel even have energy powers when Rogue absorbed off her?

no, she was augmented (by i think the kree) after her depression from losing her power's/identity.

she came back to earth as binary looking for revenge against rogue.
the only extra power she had when rogue drained her was the sixth sense, but rogue had that aswell.

How the hell does she beat Martian Manhunter?

Superman Level Strength or Close to

Superman Level Speed or Close to

Superman Level Invulnerability or Close to

Phasing (which he can used to knock out enemies when he passes through them while phased)

Telepathy

Advanced Shapeshifting - Can increase his mass tremoundously. Can reform after being cut etc etc.

Heat Vision

This guy is pretty much Superman and more except he's no where near as popular.

Originally posted by Placidity
How the hell does she beat Martian Manhunter?

Superman Level Strength or Close to

Superman Level Speed or Close to

Superman Level Invulnerability or Close to

Phasing (which he can used to knock out enemies when he passes through them while phased)

Telepathy

Advanced Shapeshifting - Can increase his mass tremoundously. Can reform after being cut etc etc.

Heat Vision

This guy is pretty much Superman and more except he's no where near as popular.


By the same token, how would Martian Manhunter beat her?

She'd easily be his equal in the strength department(Colossus's organic steel strength amped by Mag's electromagnetic powers).

She'd have better reflexes(Northstar+Mags+Sage)

She'd be more durable(Colossus's amped durability+Magneto's force field+Multiple Man's Kinetic energy absorption+Wolverine's healing factor).

She'd automatically reflect any TP attacks back at J'ohnn via Sage's powers or fry his brain with Mag's powers.

Her ability to manipulate energy would be far superior(Mag's+Havok).

She'd vastly outnumber him if and when he landed a punch(Multiple Man)

I can see a case being made for him winning via phasing, but she has just as good a tactic in the manipulation of MM's blood(which is extremely high in Iron content). And unless I'm mistaken Mag's force field has held phasing characters at bay before...

She clears this with ease. Everytime she would be hit she would multiply, it would be like Lobo with hundreds of clones against each one of these guys, and she would win, all of her clones would also have the ability to drain each person on the list. Imagine if ten of them grabbed any one of these guys?

This is a stomp.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And unless I'm mistaken Mag's force field has held phasing characters at bay before...