“Super Rogue Prime” vs. Superman Prime

Started by darthgoober4 pages

“Super Rogue Prime” vs. Superman Prime

Rogue regains the ability to use all her past powers and decides to use them to take down everyone’s favorite Emo, can she do it?

A list of character’s who’s powers she’s absorbed in the past…

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=56&page=13

For this threads purposes, assume that she’s unable to recall the abilities of Thor, Loki, or the Juggernaught because to my knowledge she’s never recalled those when she was able(despite their obvious usefulness), leading me to believe something about their powers prevents it.

She was never able to properly absorb Loki's power. She doesn't know how to "be" Thor, so she'd just get über strength anyways.

Prime stomps.

SMP crushes her.

Assuming she can use the recalled abilities well, in this scenario - Phoenix' power + Wanda's chaos magic should be enough. Might even throw in Sinister's mind/HF, just for shits and haha's.

Originally posted by llagrok
She was never able to properly absorb Loki's power. She doesn't know how to "be" Thor, so she'd just get über strength anyways.

Prime stomps.


You really think Prime stomps? I mean just look at some of the things she has going for her...

Strength/Durability- Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man, She-Hulk, Thing, Colossus, Dr. Leonard Samson, Hulk

Energy Blast/Manipulation- Dazzler, Black Tom, Firestar, Cyclops, Magneto, Havok, Human Torch, Gambit, Joseph(Magneto clone), Iceman, Polaris, Sunfire, Storm

Psi- Rachel Grey, Psylocke, Jean Grey, Professor Xavier, Dr. Druid

Speed- Northstar, Spider-Man, Ms. Marvel,

Healing- Wolverine, Sabretooth, She-Hulk

Probability Alteration- Longshot, Scarlet Witch

Fighting skills- Wolverine, Psylocke, Ms. Marvel, Sabretooth, Captain America, Silver Samurai, Mystique

Now I know at first glance SBP seems to hve a significant strength advantage, but keep in mind that Magneto can amp his human level strength to a cl100+ and Rogue also has the powers of Joseph and Polaris to help in the effort. Surely the amping abilities of those three(plus things like telekinetic amping via Jean Grey) can bring Rogues already significant strength within range of Prime's...

Originally posted by Galan007
Assuming she can use the recalled abilities well, in this scenario - Phoenix' power + Wanda's chaos magic should be enough. Might even throw in Sinister's mind/HF, just for shits and haha's.

No Phoenix Force or Uber Wanda.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Now I know at first glance SBP seems to hve a significant strength advantage, but keep in mind that Magneto can amp his human level strength to a cl100+ and Rogue also has the powers of Joseph and Polaris to help in the effort. Surely the amping abilities of those three(plus things like telekinetic amping via Jean Grey) can bring Rogues already significant strength within range of Prime's...
Nope.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No Phoenix Force or Uber Wanda.
But, she's absorbed/duplicated them in the past. 😒

Originally posted by Galan007
But, she's absorbed/duplicated them in the past. 😒

Did she absorb the Phoenix Force or Wanda's uber powers? I thought she just absorbed plain old Jean Grey and Classic Wanda.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Nope.

What makes you thing that?

Right.

She wins, thanks to longshot's powers.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Now I know at first glance SBP seems to hve a significant strength advantage, but keep in mind that Magneto can amp his human level strength to a cl100+ and Rogue also has the powers of Joseph and Polaris to help in the effort. Surely the amping abilities of those three(plus things like telekinetic amping via Jean Grey) can bring Rogues already significant strength within range of Prime's...
Even with amping, I seriously doubt Rouge would be able to throw planets around like ping-pong balls. imo, if she does in fact win, it wouldn't be by overpowering Prime.

Rouge has a impressive powerset, but prime is simply to much. He takes her for the solid majority.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you thing that?
The fact that even with all that, I don't think she can physically move planets across the galaxy like chess pieces.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did she absorb the Phoenix Force or Wanda's uber powers? I thought she just absorbed plain old Jean Grey and Classic Wanda.
It says she absorbed Phoenix III/IV on that site *shrugs* [I have those issue, but I'm way too lazy to flip through them 😛] - and I wasn't talking about HoM Wanda, btw.

she should win every time. Hell I dont even think odin should be able to stomp this version of rogue. In one issue she basically waved her hand (forgot the reason why) and was vaporizing a city.

She was uber and has some uber feats. She was consider the most powerful being on the planet with no threats. She already beat the avengers and xmen a while back ago with just part of the powers that she had but now she knows how to use them.

Rogue 10/10

Originally posted by carver9
she should win every time. Hell I dont even think odin should be able to stomp this version of rogue. In one issue she basically waved her hand (forgot the reason why) and was vaporizing a city.

She was uber and has some uber feats. She was consider the most powerful being on the planet with no threats. She already beat the avengers and xmen a while back ago with just part of the powers that she had but now she knows how to use them.

Rogue 10/10

So because she can easily destroy a city, she can beat Odin who annihilates galaxys and juggles stars?

Can she get Emoboy's powers?

10/10...I don't think so, if we go by feats there isnt any feats to put her on primes level. She might have the potential to beat him but were going by what he know and what we've seen, prime takes it.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even with amping, I seriously doubt Rouge would be able to throw planets around like ping-pong balls. imo, if she does in fact win, it wouldn't be by overpowering Prime.

Oh I'm not saying that she'll exceed(or even equal) Prime's strength, just that she should be able to amp to somewhere on his level. If Magneto's powers let him trade a few hits with guys like Thor, then his powers x2)since she also has Joseph's ability) plus whatever Polaris can add should be sufficient to allow Rogue's gamma radiated organic steel body to trade hits with Prime. She might not overpower him, but he's going to have a difficult time overpowering her as well(especially with a body forcefield up).