Human extinction

Started by Jack Daniels4 pages

Large Hadron Collider http://www.lhcountdown.com/ we could all die in 17 days? black holes , strange matter producing machine etc..lol some mf ers always tryin to skate uphill...LOL...there is a thread about this look it up on google or here jus look up black holes etc LHC......kinda scary but we should just all hope france has it under control...LOL

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Wut?

The quote you posted was talking about heat death. We can't calculate all mass in the universe due to some that isn't detectable by current methods. but based on best estimates, the universe will continue to expand indefinitely, rather than contract into another singularity...and eventually Big Bang.

As with most scientific ideas, it is provisional and subject to change, but factual according to the best known data.

Is this a problem?

No... but I don't see what the long response was for... you essentially just agreed with me. 😐

So, can someone explain what Digi said in the post quoted above? Sorry, but I still don't understand a lot of things about this kind of stuff.

It's not that hard to understand, and he's actually correct. It's just funny how "scientific fact" isn't factual. It's "fact" based off of estimates and logical deduction, which means it's not an actual fact since hypothesis are never factual unless proven.

But I suppose that's why it's called a "scientific fact" instead of just your regular old fact. fact fact fact.

Originally posted by Da Joker
So, can someone explain what Digi said in the post quoted above? Sorry, but I still don't understand a lot of things about this kind of stuff.

Its based off of old ideas about the end of the universe.

Basically, in the theory, gravity and the expansion of the universe are opposites. If one is stronger than the other, it will be the cause of the end of the universe.

If gravity wins, the universe will eventually slow its expansion, stop, and begin to shrink in on its own gravity. Some people posit that this will lead to another big bang. I don't understand how, but it is astrophysics, something that humans have a long history of being 100% correct about.

If the expansion is stronger than gravity, the universe will eventually expand so fast that it overcomes gravity, and eventually the atomic bonds holding matter together and will become some ever expanding mess of diffuse quarks.

If there are equal, the universe will maintain steady growth.

There are different ways of measuring both the mass of objects in space (which would cause gravity) and universal expansion. They find estimates for both values and put it in an equation of X/Y. X is expansion, Y is gravity. So far, the number is well greater than one, meaning that the expansion appears to be winning.

However, the "dark" matter and energy complicate things, as does the fact that we are humans.

He also added the proviso that this is all subject to change as we get better data.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
It's not that hard to understand, and he's actually correct. It's just funny how "scientific fact" isn't factual. It's "fact" based off of estimates and logical deduction, which means it's not an actual fact since hypothesis are never factual unless proven.

But I suppose that's why it's called a "scientific fact" instead of just your regular old fact. fact fact fact.

I think you mean to say that science does not represent the absolute universal truth.

A scientific fact is a fact by matter of definition. I think you assume that "fact" is a unmovable universal constant.

"They" call it a scientific fact because they are likely trying to convince you. I can't imagine a real scientist going on about "scientific facts" in any meaningful way.

Right, that''s what I was trying to get at.

cool, i figured as much

Has anyone read the book "TIME" by Baxter?

Obviously not.

no but sounds like worth reading by its title...lol...dont get to the library much but is it interesting or something that homer simpson type brain probably wouldnt be able to process?...lol...be honest I was only a c student in science..I slept thru a alot of it and only woke up to pass the tests..lol...

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
no but sounds like worth reading by its title...lol...dont get to the library much but is it interesting or something that homer simpson type brain probably wouldnt be able to process?...lol...be honest I was only a c student in science..I slept thru a alot of it and only woke up to pass the tests..lol...
The book focuses on humanities extinction as the means for the true potential for life. The writings pretty far fetched but the premise is very clever and halfway believable.