Captain America's shield vs. Marvel & DC

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ermm doesnt it depend on how good they are, doesnt Magneto have molecular manipulation?

Well Hulk can destory dimensional barriers, cant destroy Caps shield though...yes I know SMP is stronger than Hulk im just focusing on the dimensional barrier thingy.

When has Hulk even smashed a dimension barrier? 😐 And please don't use the destroy a dimension example. He didn't. All he did was Thunderclap, and it resonated with the blast fired at him and nature of the dimension, causing a chain reaction that destroyed the dimension.

SMP is Pre-crisis. It's easily within his limits. Just tell him it killed his earth. 😂

Validus could do it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
When has Hulk even smashed a dimension barrier? 😐 And please don't use the destroy a dimension example. He didn't. All he did was Thunderclap, and it resonated with the blast fired at him and nature of the dimension, causing a chain reaction that destroyed the dimension.

SMP is Pre-crisis. It's easily within his limits. Just tell him it killed his earth. 😂

Validus could do it.

Originally posted by six6six
Captain America's shield has been broken at least 4 times:

-Molecule Man
-Thanos w/IG
-Dr. Doom after stealing Beyonder's powers
-Thor w/Odinforce

3 times out of the 4 were done by amped characters.
Without any amps, is there anyone in either/both Marvel & DC besides MM capable of breaking it?

=Entities/Gods don't count.

Anyone with matter manipulation or high-level magic.

For instance, in DC Firestorm could easily turn Captain America's shield into potato chips, and in JLA: Obsidian Age the monster who had absorbed Zatanna used her powers of speaking backwards to turn promethium (the DC equivalent of Adamantium, which Firestorm had created out of thin air to bind her) into PAPER ....simply by saying promethium to paper backwards.

There are many more who can do similar in DC, and just as many in Marvel.

The only place where the shield holds its own is against direct physical strength, and normal energy attacks.

Although even in pure strength there are some characters who can seriously affect it, even to the point of damaging the binds.

For instance, Emo-prime at his best could wreck the shield based on what he was shown doing.

Remember ....it is just that the molecular binds in that shield are so EXCEEDINGLY strong that nearly nothing can even dent it, but what if a character has greater strength than the valence of the molecular bonds in the shield?

The shield breaks!

There are certain brutes (like Emoprime) who could very well just break the shield using strength.

And there is a list of matter-manips and high-level magic users who could simply turn the shield into goo.

It is just that Captain America seldom faces off against such ultra-ubers, otherwise he would have lost his shield quite some time back. ....

.....Retcon or no retcon.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
When has Hulk even smashed a dimension barrier? 😐 And please don't use the destroy a dimension example. He didn't. All he did was Thunderclap, and it resonated with the blast fired at him and nature of the dimension, causing a chain reaction that destroyed the dimension.

SMP is Pre-crisis. It's easily within his limits. Just tell him it killed his earth. 😂

Validus could do it.

Well lets see....Savage Hulk who is weaker than Professor Hulk was strong enough to resist Vector who so powerful that his kinetic powers teleported them to another dimension and was replling reality itself. Savage Hulk also punched through a Timestorm.

Not exactly the samething but if he can do the above dont see why he cant punch through a dimensional barrier.

Maybe SMP and Validus can but just because they can punch through a dimesional barrier doesnt mean that they can break Caps shield.

The Time Storm is effectively a dimensional barrier isn't it?

Hulk could break the shield.

Originally posted by janus77
The Time Storm is effectively a dimensional barrier isn't it?

Hulk could break the shield.

Yeah but Professor Hulk is stronger than Savage Hulk and he couldnt break it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah but Professor Hulk is stronger than Savage Hulk and he couldnt break it.

Prof hulk is not stronger than savage hulk considering that hulks strength is based on anger an emotion that comes far quicker to savage hulk. Hulk has also perfromed most of his best feats as savage hulk.

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
He might dent it, but I don't know if he could break it.

'Super Saiya-jin' World War Hulk wouldn't be able to break Cap's shield. Much less normal Savage Hulk.

Hmm, let's see...

Doctor Fate turns it into liquid
Jenny Q
Sentry (quite sure)
Silver Surfer?
Darksied's Omega Force?