Believ's

Things are alive, ya know. I talk to them... 😄

Then you believe in something that is not true.

Originally posted by anaconda
i dont believe i do 😎

😕 I lost track three loops ago. 😆

a belief is a belief no matter what it is. To have a belief in no belief is still a belief. Right? 😱

Tell that to U.S. history textbooks when they talk about Native Americans.

They make their religions seem completely idiotic.

Actually it's more in tune with what many people believe today in some retrospect, but yes, you're right.

I believe in faith... faith in the Creator..There is something more out there than any of us...who and what the creator is none knows here on earth...except what you feel inside...somethin like that

I believe in faith also. Faith in the positive which brings about change.

Originally posted by chithappens
Tell that to U.S. history textbooks when they talk about Native Americans.

They make their religions seem completely idiotic.

Really? I'm sorry that was your experience. Maybe the schools I went to were just the other extreme. My 8th grade history teacher said that basically if any white person saw any beauty or value in a tree they had to have Native American blood in them and that the Native Americans in no way, shape, or form, were destructive to the planet.

All religions can sound stupid when 5 minutes are spent on them in a class where the teacher is convinced that memorizing dates gives students a better view of history than actually learning about the day to day lives and the culture of the people.

Were anyone's beliefs here actually influenced or inspired by school? I'm just curious to know. Much is made about how parents shape your religion and how people need to break out of that and find out what they believe on their own, but did anyone do that through something in their school system?

Atheist.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
Really? I'm sorry that was your experience. Maybe the schools I went to were just the other extreme. My 8th grade history teacher said that basically if any white person saw any beauty or value in a tree they had to have Native American blood in them and that the Native Americans in no way, shape, or form, were destructive to the planet.

All religions can sound stupid when 5 minutes are spent on them in a class where the teacher is convinced that memorizing dates gives students a better view of history than actually learning about the day to day lives and the culture of the people.

Were anyone's beliefs here actually influenced or inspired by school? I'm just curious to know. Much is made about how parents shape your religion and how people need to break out of that and find out what they believe on their own, but did anyone do that through something in their school system?

Nah, I was never influenced by religion in school. The history books only give you a snapshot of a religion which really isn't enough to either believe or disbelive it. I'm with you though, my teachers or books never made the Indians out to be wierdos for their religious beliefs.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
a belief is a belief no matter what it is. To have a belief in no belief is still a belief. Right? 😱

That is what you believe. 😆

Originally posted by Deja~vu
a belief is a belief no matter what it is. To have a belief in no belief is still a belief. Right? 😱

depends

is the absence of something the same as the presence of it?

obviously not

now you understand why there are words to describe the presence of something and the absence of something

Originally posted by inimalist
...now you understand why there are words to describe the presence of something and the absence of something

You are making a big assumption. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are making a big assumption. 😆

lol

indeed, it was a little glib also

but its makes the point. A word cannot mean both the presence of absence of something, else it has no meaning at all.

Originally posted by inimalist
lol

indeed, it was a little glib also

but its makes the point. A word cannot mean both the presence of absence of something, else it has no meaning at all.

What about the word god? 😛

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What about the word god? 😛

what do you mean?

God doesn't mean its opposite...

There is a God is not the same as there is no God.

And whatever God is to you, it is not it's opposite.

if it is, your use of the term God, imho, is pointless.

Originally posted by inimalist
...if it is, your use of the term God, imho, is pointless.

👆

the mere fact that it is a WORD doesnt have any relevance as long as it is not representative of a positive concept/meaningful content. similarly, the CONTENT of beleif is more important than it just being a general BELEIF .

e.g

"i beleive what i am typing right now is not true"

nonsensical statement since the sentence itself isnt referring to any factual, consistant phenomenon to which the statement applies. youll just go around in loops trying to make sense of it and itll turn into an infinite regress.

I don't know what to believe.

But I'm damned tired of all the bigotry anybody has to offer in the name of their belief.