Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes through his hands........not a big limitation if at all.No he really only has 4...........his actual arms would do nothign to wolverine and are none factors.
Thicker yes and he does have more, but there also stuck to a normal human..........not a vastly meta human like omega red.
stronger? prove it. Theses arms have overpower colossus and held iron man down..........
.........How do you know he was moving faster.........that complete bias claim with no evidences to support it.
really then why would you think ock could see him move?
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Did you just say that Wolverine is faster and more agile than Spidey?
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Doc Ock FTW FTR
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Nope were did I say this? No were.why does doc ock win? Logan has a rouge who doc but better..........
Doc Ock and Omega Red have nothing in common. They dont fight the same and Omega red 10 tons strenghth. Doc Ock has 4 arms that can each lift 10 tons. I love Omega Red.....have his Marvel Legends figure on my desk at work, but if he didnt have the death effect I dont see him beating Dock Ock. Wolverine would lose to Dock Ock if he had Adamantium arms.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Doc Ock and Omega Red have nothing in common. They dont fight the same and Omega red 10 tons strenghth. Doc Ock has 4 arms that can each lift 10 tons. I love Omega Red.....have his Marvel Legends figure on my desk at work, but if he didnt have the death effect I dont see him beating Dock Ock.
Your right that Omega red and doc ock don't fight the same, becuases omega red is vastly superior when it comes to fighting, tactics and over all effectivenss.
oh and he still beat doc ock even with out his death effect.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Doc Ock and Omega Red have nothing in common. They dont fight the same and Omega red 10 tons strenghth. Doc Ock has 4 arms that can each lift 10 tons. I love Omega Red.....have his Marvel Legends figure on my desk at work, but if he didnt have the death effect I dont see him beating Dock Ock. Wolverine would lose to Dock Ock if he had Adamantium arms.
you also forgot that omega red has an amazing healing factor. Omega red >> doc ock and this is without his pheromone.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
........he only 10 tons? were did you get this from? he a lot stronger then that..........hell each of of his tenicles are stornger then this.........the dude has kept iron man down with his strength.......as well as made colossus rather usless..........he way stronger then simply 10 tons.Your right that Omega red and doc ock don't fight the same, becuases omega red is vastly superior when it comes to fighting, tactics and over all effectivenss.
oh and he still beat doc ock even with out his death effect.
Marvel handbook....... I unlike alot of people swear by it. Yes alot of these guys have strength effects greater than what is printed. You have to go by something. Hell I have seen Spiderman lift stuff that weighs 100 tons.....i go by the handbook though he is a 20 tonner.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Marvel handbook....... I unlike alot of people swear by it. Yes alot of these guys have strength effects greater than what is printed. You have to go by something. Hell I have seen Spiderman lift stuff that weighs 100 tons.....i go by the handbook though he is a 20 tonner.
sorry, but on pannel evdiences>>>>>>>>>hand books
Those speedblitz scans are a crock. The human eye can process VERY fast speeds, so unless you are suggesting that Wolverine can move faster than Quicksilver, I'd not post them again. Was typical writer-wolverine wanking. That said, Wolverine has also been tagged many times by Omega Red, so him being able to dance past tendrils is iffy, not to mention that Doc Ock has 4 of them
Now despite all of that, Wolverine wins this nearly every time. For one, its a bookstore, Wolverine can disappear behind shelves and ambush Doc. Also even in a straight fight, I dont see Doc putting him down before Wolverine is able to close the distance and finish him off. At his core, Omega Red is still a supremely strong and durable fighter while the good Doctor is just a fat guy with less durability than me. Wolverine, or Omega Red for that matter, destroys Doc Ock
Originally posted by Battlehammer
swifter.........which means moving fast or quicker.
Swift as in agile and bendable was my intentions with the words. My english vocabulary is very limited since I am not from an english speaking country and I just happened to have believed swift meant agile. For that I apologize.
Id have to go with Wolverine for this, hid damage soak capabilities would allow him to get next to Ock eventually, and since he just need to do this just once to end it, it's not a huge ask, given his nice agility and reflexes.
Although, aernt the arms autonamous, they work independantly of eachother that could be the part wolverine may have trouble with , he may well move faster than Dock Ocks eyes can see, but the arms are not limited to Ocks field of view, the arms are capable of faster than Pete Speed, Stronger than Pete strength and are themselves not just lumbering weights.
but since tagging wolverine is not putting him down, in this particular circumstance, it would take one arm to hold him , once arm to inflict the dmg, one arm to protect doc, maybe 2, that may mean he makes it past the whirling tentacles of death, and tags ock more times that not.
Reen 6/ maybe 7/
that is ofcourse in my very humble Opinion
All Doc needs to do is get one tentacle on Wolverine and pin him in one spot and Wolverines done. Each tentacle has roughly CL10 strength and is made out of Adamantium so, Wolverine "SHOULDN'T" be able to break free of it's grip nor do any damage to it with his claws. Soon after (1-2 Seconds) the other 3 tentacles are there to join in and now with CL40 preasure to control him. Wolverine is immobilized and Doc is the winner. I see this type of scenario being the relative norm.
Doc > Logan 7.5/10