Originally posted by Bat Dude
I still think it can happen...Nolan's done it before, what makes us think he can't do it again? With or without Joker, he'll find a way to AT LEAST surpass Begins...
yeah I have no doubt that he will surpass begins,
depending on what story he goes for in the 3rd movie
maybe something along the lines of hush,
I would love to see The Dark Knight returns put to screen,
but that's just my fanboyism 😂
Surpassing Begins IMO won't be that hard. For me Begins was good but kind of stale because it didn't have that memorable of villains or fight scenes IMO and was really just a lot of prologue. Which is fine but it was dead on the excitement for me. The Dark Knight pushed all of it into the next level. It had the good story telling but two great villains and great performances from them and atmosphere that was out of this world and it improved on the small things that made Begins good but not great IMO. The thing is I think the Dark Knight is damn near perfect. I don't know what Nolan can really improve on overall to make the next movie greater than this. With Batman Begins I saw things that I was hoping would be better in the next movie. The Dark Knight surpassed my expectations to the point where I can't even think of what could be greater. Maybe Nolan can and once again he will surprise me...but man...
It's rather exciting where comic book movies are going. What Marvel is doing with separately introducing The Avengers in their own movies and culminating in a super-movies is great.
I believe, stand-alone wise, TDK is the best ever. I find it to be a great movie in ANY genre, not having to label it. When you do categorize it, it becomes even better. Let's say there was never a comic book called Batman. The story would be of a vigilante in a crime-filled city with very little help because alot of the police is corrupted. Along comes a beacon of light that can relieve the vigilante of his duties. However, the beacon of light becomes compromised when a crazy sadistic maniac comes along and tries to ruin everything... and succeeds. Doesn't have to be a comic book movie, just so happens that this story is filled with these characters from a comic book, which makes it all better. I freaking LOVE it!
Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
As far as making money, probably. But as being a great comic book film, no. Hellboy 2 and Iron Man were far better than The Dark Knight. I still think Superman, dircected by Richard Donner in the 1970's is the greatest comic book movie of all time.
I agree with the part about Superman still being the greatest comicbook movie of all time.
Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I could watch Iron Man over and over, same as Hell Boy 2. The Dark Knight I could probably stand maybe one more time before I'd be completely bored out of my gourd. The Dark Knight was a well made film. The Joker was the best thing about it. Everything else was not very innovative or fresh. Don't get me wrong, it was a very good film, but it did not score points for originality or entertainment value for me. I disagree with you, you disagree with me, so there we have it. I still think Iron Man and Hell Boy 2 are way better.
I could watch BOTH Ironman and The Dark Knight over and over again.Their both great movies.Thats a good point though about The Dark Knight not being innovative or fresh.as it was talked about on the similarities of the Burton and Nolan films.Nolan took somethings from Batman 89 and put thim in his films.a few similarities between the two.Joker going out in the open streets and challenging Batman like he did,ect ect.
The fact that you engage in name calling cause someone disagrees with you just shows who the fool here is.Thats NOT a fact kid its an opinion.Something people have a right here to express.Go and tell Hiker your OPINION since he said it originally. 🙄 its truley sad that your still carrying over a grudge from a debate over that stupid man-spider movie that you worship and have to bring it here to the Batman section.meet my ignore list.