Two Face!

Originally posted by Kainreaver
Here's a question. I dont know if it's been answered yet, but Gordon tells Batman at the end of the movie when talking about Harveys recent actions "Five dead...two of them cops, you cant just sweep that up". So, who are the five dead, (Including the two dead cops)? I count 3 dead, 4 if you count Him, but also only 1 dead cop. Any suggestions?

Yeah, the DVD deleted scenes will probably show Ramirez kill herself or something.

Originally posted by Kainreaver
Yeah, the DVD deleted scenes will probably show Ramirez kill herself or something.

I sincerely doubt that...
It wasn't really what I meant, either. I meant that Gordon may well have discovered that Dent had already murdered Wurtz and, if he was unable to contact Ramirez and, of course, knew Dent at least suspected her to be corrupt, then he might well have expected that Dent murdered her too.
Alternatively, Gordon could have assumed he killed a cop guarding Dent's room at the hospital, though I'm pretty sure that The Joker did that.
It's all speculation really; there's no definitive answer, unless a Nolan comes out and says as much.

I suppose time will tell. (DVD comentary?) I doubt the cop from the hospital is one of the possibilities since it would appear that that cop died when the hospital went up in the blast (That is if they ever found the body)
And with no real answer, and everything being speculation, the fact might just be that Oldman either screwed up his line, or nolan had bad math when writing the script. people are after all only people who make mistakes.

Aaaron Eckhart recently revealed that he won't be returning to the batman franchise.

Fiddlesticks!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=7641

Yes, it's true. Aaron Eckhart says goodbye to Batman. At the press day for his upcoming indie film Towelhead, ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype! talked to the actor who portrayed Harvey Dent/Two-Face in The Dark Knight. He told us he's definitely not signed on for another film and confirmed his character is dead.

Eckhart laughed about how he tried to ask if there was a chance he was coming back and was good-humored about the deadly fate of Dent.

Actually, I am kinda distrot to hear that kinda...I was hoping to see Aaron as Harvey again.

As cool as it would be to see him back, its best with the ending they had in TDK. Kind of like with Ra's, they implied he died without a verification and bringing either back and saying "Oh look, they actually survived" seems like a cop out.

Two Face is dead: http://chud.com/articles/articles/16196/1/IT039S-OFFICIAL-TWO-FACE-IS-DEAD/Page1.html

Read it and weep.

And People complain to Burton about a killing Batman.
This is just as worse.

Originally posted by Joker1237
And People complain to Burton about a killing Batman.
This is just as worse.

He knock him off a building. That was no accident. At least in Batman 1989. It was either Bats/Vicky or the Joker in that case. All the Joker had to do in the movie was let go of the chopper.

Originally posted by Joker1237
He knock him off a building. That was no accident. At least in Batman 1989. It was either Bats/Vicky or the Joker in that case. All the Joker had to do in the movie was let go of the chopper.

Originally posted by Icy Ninja
Have to disagree Bats probably didn't want Dent to die but he really had no choice what was he going to do let him kill Gordens son then arrest him. No matter how you look at it Batman made the right decision to jump at Harvey, better for an adult to die then a young child.

More to the point: better for an evil psycho murderer adult to die rather than an innocent young child.

Originally posted by Kovacs86
More to the point: better for an evil psycho murderer adult to die rather than an innocent young child.

Add "Evil psychopath murderer that's in the progress of killing someone" and you got a good little idea of why Batman did right.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Two Face is dead: http://chud.com/articles/articles/16196/1/IT039S-OFFICIAL-TWO-FACE-IS-DEAD/Page1.html

Read it and weep.

That guy from Chud is a terrible reviewer.

Originally posted by Kovacs86
More to the point: better for an evil psycho murderer adult to die rather than an innocent young child.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
And there was no other way that Batman could stop Dent besides rushing him off the cliff?

There was no other way, though it wasn't a cliff.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
And there was no other way that Batman could stop Dent besides rushing him off the cliff? I think the Dent dying ending is stupid. JMO

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dunno, I assume Batman did a swift calculation of the odds and risks and decided that rushing him over would be the best option. You have to remember he just made his way through half the town, after fighting with tenth of SWATs and Thugs and being attacked by dogs as well as hit with a crowbar repeatedly...oh yeah, and he got shot. It was probably the only option to safely rescue the boy. Yeah.

Absolutely correct. Batman was half-dead and didn't exactly have the time to try to wrestle the kid away from Dent, or whatever. What is not always conveyed very effectively in these films, I think, is how fast you can kill someone with a gun. Batman had no time. If Dent realised he was moving, he'd have shot James Jr., swiftly followed by Batman and the rest of Gordon's family, I believe.