Anime vs Marvel/DC

Originally posted by carver9
Thats your opinion, since superman has yet to show me any combat speed even comparable to nappa then frieza and cooler stomps the jla and jsa.

A nuke is nothing to superman huh then why in the hell did prime say that a blast comparable to a nuke hurt, why did doctor light ko superman with a blast not even comparable or close to the power of a nuke.

Frieza combat speed>>>>>>>>>Superman combat speed and thats being generous. Again superman gets overwhelmed by mere bricks hasnt displayed any combat speed even comparable to nappa.

Flight speed dont = combat speed and i hope one day people would realize that. If frieza vs Superman was written in a book superman would literally get his a** handed to him and since goku as a child was seeing lightning in slow motion and by the time he was fighting nappa his speed was >>>goku from dragonball I think that he was moving well beyond light. Hell in regular dragon episode 140 yamcha even said that goku could move the speed of light and tien mentioned it also.

Now show me some combat speed feats that superman has that > nappa.

Wait, aren't you the same guy who said Superman would have a tough time keeping up with Gambit's speed?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I don't have to prove there was not a plot device, I can't prove a negative. You made the claim there is a plot device, burden of proof is on YOU. Until one is shown, there is no plot device.

Only SMP blitzed three Flashes.

Do you want to know what combat speed is, fast for this to five minutes, thats combat speed. I fail to see prime even mimic anything close to this, not even in his dam* dreams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7jjcO3hV2c&feature=related

Originally posted by Prime#
Wait, aren't you the same guy who said Superman would have a tough time keeping up with Gambit's speed?

i never said that sh**, someone put a scan up with superman slapping bullets and I said gambit have pulled that same feat. We all know that superman>>>gambit when it come to speed.

Stop being ridiculous.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you want to know what combat speed is, fast for this to five minutes, thats combat speed. I fail to see prime even mimic anything close to this, not even in his dam* dreams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7jjcO3hV2c&feature=related

Of course you think Frieza is faster. You're a fanboy.

Though since you conceded SMP survived a big bang, it isn't like anyone in DBZ can even hurt him anyway. 🙂

DC has All-Star Superman. All Star Supes is literally god. He is shown to have created our universe

All Star Supes created out universe which has our Earth in it which has the creators of every anime on it.

Ain't fanboyism a B*tch?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
He is faster than Flash, who can fight at FTL. He blitzed many GLs before they could do a thing, who are also FTL. He is much faster than Superman, who is once again FTL.

Of course you think Frieza is faster. You're a fanboy.

Though since you conceded SMP survived a big bang, it isn't like anyone in DBZ can even hurt him anyway. 🙂

Dark-jaxx, I understand that you think that Im a fan boy and I have no problem with that because when I argue for a character or anyone argue for a character people always call that person a fanboy when its not true. I know plenty of beings that can beat goku but Im not going to say that its going to be superman, wonderwoman, gladiator,etc...

The thing that you will always fail to realize is that combat speed dont equal flight speed. If thats the case superman shouldnt even be a threat to surfer since surfer flight speed is>>>superman but we all know thats not the case. Superman have not displayed anything close to even nappa IN COMBAT SPEED. And you say that goku wont hurt superman huh, well goku did punch frieza so hard and hit him through two mountains that lead to the planet shaking. Hell frieza was punching goku so hard that the shock waves was spreading for miles and made bulma fly to another part of the planet.

I didnt ask you who superman prime flew with I said show me some combat speed that is even comparable to frieza and you failed again. By the way prime froze breath the gls and then he blitzed them.

Originally posted by carver9
Dark-jaxx, I understand that you think that Im a fan boy and I have no problem with that because when I argue for a character or anyone argue for a character people always call that person a fanboy when its not true. I know plenty of beings that can beat goku but Im not going to say that its going to be superman, wonderwoman, gladiator,etc...

The thing that you will always fail to realize is that combat speed dont equal flight speed. If thats the case superman shouldnt even be a threat to surfer since surfer flight speed is>>>superman but we all know thats not the case. Superman have not displayed anything close to even nappa IN COMBAT SPEED. And you say that goku wont hurt superman huh, well goku did punch frieza so hard and hit him through two mountains that lead to the planet shaking. Hell frieza was punching goku so hard that the shock waves was spreading for miles and made bulma fly to another part of the planet.

I didnt ask you who superman prime flew with I said show me some combat speed that is even comparable to frieza and you failed again. By the way prime froze breath the gls and then he blitzed them.

2. SMP BLITZED THE FLASHES. Superman hasn't displayed anything close to Nappa in combat speed? Can someone post the scan of Superman fighting that dude in multiple places around the planet? Goku WON'T hurt Superman Prime, who survived a Big Bang. Made Bulma, a 120 pounds girl at most, fly through the air? WOWZ!!! THAT IS T3H 1337 STRENGTH!!!!!

3. He froze them before they could react, killed them, then HVed a couple, then had Guy Gardner by the throat before he could react. He also one shotted Hal Jordan essentially.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Which GL? One of the good ones like Hal, Kyle, or Sodam Yat, sure, but not one of the fodder bullshit GLs. Anyone can beat them.

Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how many people on the jla and jsa can take nukes from a being that is basically invisible to there eyes. I cant see many surviving.

Superman have not displayed anything close to even nappa IN COMBAT SPEED.

What feats does nappa have other than he fought a guy who fought a guy... who fought Goku, who was all blurry?

And you say that goku wont hurt superman huh, well goku did punch frieza so hard and hit him through two mountains that lead to the planet shaking. Hell frieza was punching goku so hard that the shock waves was spreading for miles and made bulma fly to another part of the planet.

You seem to have a bad grasp of scale. Its okay a lot of DBZ fans have this problem. When the local area of over say a mile is shaking it doesn't mean the planet is shaking. Just that area.

Mountains is a meaningless word. It can means something 100ft tall to on 1000s of feet tall. The mountains shown in DBZ tend towards the lower end.

When Bulma blown off screen it doesn't mean she's landed on the other side of the planet.

When a beefed up cell punches the ground with above ssj 2 strength and only breaks some rocks we know we're not dealing with power houses on a comic level.

Also Frieza would not be invisible to any of the top tiers eyes. Superman and wonder woman can track the flash moving at top speeds. Hal Jordan has made constructs that can track Zoom and tag him.

We have the two flashes who you can't deny have higher combat speed than Frieza. We have KC superman who by Jays own admission is faster than him.

The Surfer does have high combat speed. He just never uses it because then he might actually beat a popular character. Judging by his brutal speed blitz of Nova, who has in turn blitzed Drax, he's very fast.

When Goku and Frieza where fighting, the shockwaves from their blows destroyed the Namek buildings around them, and smashed apart the landscape !! During the fight, Frieza fires a huge death ball at goku, goku stops it, and punches it into space, destroying one of the nearby Planets !!... When Namek blows ( and im not sure about this) But the explosion could be seen from outside the Galaxy (atleast in the flashback) meaning it was a solar system sized explosion..and Frieza survived with half a body, one arm, and less than half his power !!

Originally posted by Prime#
DC has All-Star Superman. All Star Supes is literally god. He is shown to have created our universe

All Star Supes created out universe which has our Earth in it which has the creators of every anime on it.

Ain't fanboyism a B*tch?

Originally posted by BradBalboa
When Goku and Frieza where fighting, the shockwaves from their blows destroyed the Namek buildings around them, and smashed apart the landscape !! During the fight, Frieza fires a huge death ball at goku, goku stops it, and punches it into space, destroying one of the nearby Planets !!... When Namek blows ( and im not sure about this) But the explosion could be seen from outside the Galaxy (atleast in the flashback) meaning it was a solar system sized explosion..and Frieza survived with half a body, one arm, and less than half his power !!

When Namek blew up, its mon was shown un damaged and three nearby planets were shown untouched. Just watched it on youtube.

I would point out huge asteroid sized parts of namek survived as well some of them even still had grass on them. That must of been mighty grass to survive such an explosion.

Originally posted by BradBalboa
Sorry to disapoint but, Neo ) a digimon) IS the universe, he can create and destroy Universes at his whim !!

Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how many people on the jla and jsa can take nukes from a being that is basically invisible to there eyes. I cant see many surviving.

Well lets see Superman,Green Lantern and Flash can easily outrun them and just steal their speed before freiza or cooler can get a thought off and just beat the ever loving crap out of them.

ok just so the anime guys know. Superman changes the way he fights absed on his opponets its who he is. Against a brick he'll try to match speed the faster the person goes the faster he will go

Originally posted by jalek moye
ok just so the anime guys know. Superman changes the way he fights absed on his opponets its who he is. Against a brick he'll try to match speed the faster the person goes the faster he will go

Since you said this show me superman fighting a character and BOTH of them winking out over the place. Dont show me that scan of him fight mongul and doing that lame a** after image because goku did better as a child, dont show me him fight imperex because again goku did that as a child and actually did things better then that.

What I want you to show me is superman hitting a character and then instantly being behind that person hitting them again before they even had a chance to move and I want to see him continuously doing this. I want to see superman have a blast shot at him that is nuke level and as soon as the blast hit the ground he basically vanish and dont even get touched by the blast. I want to see superman punch at someone but its a after image that is punching at you then the real person show up behind the after image punching you. How about superman being so fast that beings that also have amazing speed shot blast at you but the blast goes completely through you like your not even there and then they fly through him at amazing speed but they are basically going through his body, dont show me that sh** with that weak a** doomsday, show me something after that or even before that. How about two guy surrounding superman and they starting punching at him with incredible speed and not one punch hit him because he is moving so fast.

Originally posted by Alucard25
Well lets see Superman,Green Lantern and Flash can easily outrun them and just steal their speed before freiza or cooler can get a thought off and just beat the ever loving crap out of them.

So superman, green lantern, and flash can outrun them. A guy that basically has combat speed thats>>>them and yes Im including the flash. Like I said before, even though dragonball isnt consistent they NEVER have been hitting by bricks, never, whereas the same cant be said for flash, superman, and why the hell did you say green lantern. Please show me some combat speed with the lantern then maybe I'll agree. Again his flight speed is incredible but I think that people on the forum just dont understand the difference between flight speed and combat speed. I wonder how fast frieza is IN SPACE since he said that he would be long gone away from planet namek and wont feel the impact of the explosion and it was basically 2 minutes left before the planet was going to blow up. So he was going to basically be on the other side of the solar system in less then two minutes but again flight speed dont equal combat speed.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
What feats does nappa have other than he fought a guy who fought a guy... who fought Goku, who was all blurry?

You seem to have a bad grasp of scale. Its okay a lot of DBZ fans have this problem. When the local area of over say a mile is shaking it doesn't mean the planet is shaking. Just that area.

Mountains is a meaningless word. It can means something 100ft tall to on 1000s of feet tall. The mountains shown in DBZ tend towards the lower end.

When Bulma blown off screen it doesn't mean she's landed on the other side of the planet.

When a beefed up cell punches the ground with above ssj 2 strength and only breaks some rocks we know we're not dealing with power houses on a comic level.

Also Frieza would not be invisible to any of the top tiers eyes. Superman and wonder woman can track the flash moving at top speeds. Hal Jordan has made constructs that can track Zoom and tag him.

We have the two flashes who you can't deny have higher combat speed than Frieza. We have KC superman who by Jays own admission is faster than him.

The Surfer does have high combat speed. He just never uses it because then he might actually beat a popular character. Judging by his brutal speed blitz of Nova, who has in turn blitzed Drax, he's very fast.

No the answer I want to know is what has superman done combat speed wise that is > nappa, nothing. Answer this, when picollo and krillin did the multiple form attack and seperated into six beings and attacked nappa and was doing about a 1000 punches per second but nappa not once got hit basically dodged every close range attack could superman repeat that same feat and if he can PROVE IT.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I meant the ones generally associated with JLA/JSA. Hal,Alan, etc.
Green Lantern could definitely do that.....or use the trillion other battle options he has to beat any of those guys. No noone from DBZ is soloing or duoing the JLA/JSA.

I agree, I do think that lantern can survive a nuke but I dont think lantern would be able to hit someone that can make a 10 book comic out of a 5 minute fight. I dont think that green lantern can hit someone that can hit you a distance and then be behind you before you even got the chance to forget about the 1st hit. The sad thing is that frieza shot nukes out of his two fingers I wonder what a entire hand could do, maybe what he did to that planet when goku slapped his blast out of space.

I get aggravated by fanboys alot, not just DBZ, so excuse me if I get angry when I talk to one.

My bad for making you aggrevated and again you call me a dbz fanboy, I love wolverine better then all but I sure as hell dont think that he could be superman and wont even pose a threat to anyone on even regular dragonball but again he is my favorite character in comics and will always be.

SMP BLITZED THE FLASHES. Superman hasn't displayed anything close to Nappa in combat speed? Can someone post the scan of Superman fighting that dude in multiple places around the planet? Goku WON'T hurt Superman Prime, who survived a Big Bang. Made Bulma, a 120 pounds girl at most, fly through the air? WOWZ!!! THAT IS T3H 1337 STRENGTH!!!!!

You just dont get it do you, the after shock sent her flying and the thing about that is that goku and frieza was miles away from her and the punches had that entire area trembling destroying mountains etc.... Thats a feat that I have yet to see colossus or kalibak do and they are above 100 tons. And you said that superman was FLYING to multiple place fighting, wow you lack the definition of combat speed. I read the comic because superboy say that someone need to talk to superman and superman is right behind them saying that hes there. Can you please show me some reasonable combat speed, do I need to post another youtube so that you can see some real combat speed.

He froze them before they could react, killed them, then HVed a couple, then had Guy Gardner by the throat before he could react. He also one shotted Hal Jordan essentially.

So since he tagged a gl then hes faster then dragonball, well I guess since deathstroke got to kyle before he even had the chance to react and tried to take his ring off that deathstroke is =to prime since kyle is one of the strongest gl's out there. I also guess that deathstroke is just as fast as prime since he has been tagging them his entire career and stabbed one in the shoulder and fought two of them including the titans and held his own. Hell gorilla grod performed good against flash and hit him to no avail in comics before.