Phoenix.
Hyperstorm has access to an unlimited power source, however he was limited in the amount of that power he could employ at any given time.
Thats why he lost horribly to Galactus. Galactus isnt hooked up to an infinite energy reservoir, he has finite resources and must constantly refuel, however the amount of energy he can employ at any given time is far greater than Hyperstorm could which is why Galactus could overpower him and turn him into his personal energy supply.
As for Psi Lord. There is a scan that has been paraded around these forums of Psi Lord loading up a rock with energy and throwing it at some enemy(cant remember his name lol) and telling him to take the "Big Bang" or something of that nature.
For some reason some people have interpreted that scene as Psi Lord literally creating a creation event and using it against his enemy despite him never before or ever since having displayed that power level. Forget the fact that it was likely a play on words and referencing the resulting big bang(the sound) that ensued from his attack. 😬
Either way, Psi Lord has never done anything particularly impressive, therefore him and Hyperstorm, against the Phoenix would get stomped.
Originally posted by GalacticStormAs for Psi Lord. There is a scan that has been paraded around these forums of Psi Lord loading up a rock with energy and throwing it at some enemy(cant remember his name lol) and telling him to take the "Big Bang" or something of that nature.
Just remembered. It was Vangaard 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix.
Originally posted by GalacticStormHyperstorm has access to an unlimited power source, however he was limited in the amount of that power he could employ at any given time.
Thats why he lost horribly to Galactus. Galactus isnt hooked up to an infinite energy reservoir, he has finite resources and must constantly refuel, however the amount of energy he can employ at any given time is far greater than Hyperstorm could which is why Galactus could overpower him and turn him into his personal energy supply.
Originally posted by GalacticStormAs for Psi Lord. There is a scan that has been paraded around these forums of Psi Lord loading up a rock with energy and throwing it at some enemy(cant remember his name lol) and telling him to take the "Big Bang" or something of that nature.
For some reason some people have interpreted that scene as Psi Lord literally creating a creation event and using it against his enemy despite him never before or ever since having displayed that power level. Forget the fact that it was likely a play on words and referencing the resulting big bang(the sound) that ensued from his attack.
Anywho .. this is silly, Psi-Lord exploded that Universe, simple and plain.
Tearing asunder Space/Time itself on a Big Bang scale is,
blowing up a Universe.
No question about it.
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Makes perfect sense why he attacked Vangaard by imploding the Universe around him.
(although even that, didn't work)
Vangaard was going to erase their own Timeline,
like Huntara said:
"only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction
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Psi-Lord attacked Vangaard by imploding the Universe around him:
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Psi-Lord explodes an entire Universe in Vangaard's face:
"Brace yourselves for the Big Bang"
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"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"
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Even Psi-Lord wouldn't have survived,
he had to escape into a Sub-pocket of Space withIN his armor:
"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket"
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Huntara confirms that the Anti-matter implosion is of a staggering magnitude,
and only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction:
The incredible Vangaard is unfazed!
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More proof that it was indeed an entire Universe Psi-lord imploded:
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A few issues later,
Diablo is trying to mind control Psi-lord and She Hulk with stipulations,
he recalls Psi-lord's power during the arc vs Vangaard,
where Diablo was in disguise:
"The conquest of Franklin Richards has been achieved,
limitless UNIVERSE SHATTERING Psionic powers
lay now at the whim, of Diablo"
Originally posted by GalacticStormEither way, Psi Lord has never done anything particularly impressive, therefore him and Hyperstorm, against the Phoenix would get stomped.
None of that proves that Psi Lord's attack was anything but a large scale energy attack which he referred to as a "big bang" in reference to the resultant sound of the attack.
A mere play on words.
The attack was lorry sized and yet you would really have us believe Psi Lord attacked Vangaard with a universes worth of energy? 😬
It’s actually stated on panel that he merely attacked Vangaard with an anti-matter attack by Psi Lord himself:
Therefore you were unjustified to state it to be anything else and perhaps naive to take a play on words literally.
Huntara further verifies the nature of the attack by referring to the anti-matter implosion after Psi Lords attack:
In fact as the above two scans show, after Psi Lords attack, Huntara and the others were able to turn around and witness Psi Lords attack from a vantage point within the very much intact Elsewhen dimension that you would have us believe Psi Lord destroyed.
"That light within the southern most sky.....An anti-matter implosion."
This shows that even if it was a literal Big Bang (which it wasn't), it was a minute scale one and nowhere near the level of a proper one. It neither destroyed a dimension, or that much of the landscape. The other heroes were fine from their vantage point 🙂
In fact we can even go over to marvunapp where it states that both combatants attacks threatened to destroy that dimension however no mention is made of Elsewhen being destroyed:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/vangaard.htm
Therefore any attempt to place Psi Lord on a universal scale and above beings such as the abstracts based on his play on words which you misinterpreted, is quite ridiculous. 🙂
Diablo’s comments are not conclusive proof of your interpretation. Franklin is known to have vast potential, so for all we know he is referring to that. Given that the Elsewhen dimension was conclusively intact after Psi Lords attack, (as illustrated clearly by the fact that the heroes were still running around in it) your opinion on the validity of Diablo’s comments and the above comic scenes in general are unfortunately for you, far from accurate. 😬
Originally posted by GalacticStormNone of that proves that Psi Lord's attack was anything but a large scale energy attack which he referred to as a "big bang" in reference to the resultant sound of the attack.
A mere play on words.
The attack was lorry sized and yet you would really have us believe Psi Lord attacked Vangaard with a universes worth of energy?
It’s actually stated on panel that he merely attacked Vangaard with an anti-matter attack by Psi Lord himself:
Therefore you were unjustified to state it to be anything else and perhaps naive to take a play on words literally.
Therefore you were unjustified to state it to be anything else than a Universal implosion,
and perhaps slick to spin the facts to demean Psi-Lord.
Nice try though. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStormHuntara further verifies the nature of the attack by referring to the anti-matter implosion after Psi Lords attack:
In fact as the above two scans show, after Psi Lords attack, Huntara and the others were able to turn around and witness Psi Lords attack from a vantage point within the very much intact Elsewhen dimension that you would have us believe Psi Lord destroyed.
"That light within the southern most sky.....An anti-matter implosion."
They weren't even in Elsewhen,
Huntara & company had just slipped out of that Dimension into Elsewhen,
through one of her spacial rifts,
they witnessed the implosion from withIN the rift.
"Though my Scythe be all but annihilated,
may it still weld sufficient energies to see us safely away"
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Here's Huntara & friends from outside their Timeline,
watching Vanguaard erase 4 entire UniverseS back to back:
yawn
Originally posted by GalacticStormThis shows that even if it was a literal Big Bang (which it wasn't), it was a minute scale one and nowhere near the level of a proper one. It neither destroyed a dimension, or that much of the landscape. The other heroes were fine from their vantage point
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Fallacies aside, confirmation that Space & Time was obliterated!
"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"
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Confirmation from a witness that an entire Universe was destroyed!
A few issues later,
Diablo is trying to mind control Psi-lord and She Hulk with stipulations,
he recalls Psi-lord's power during the arc vs Vangaard,
where Diablo was in disguise:
"The conquest of Franklin Richards has been achieved,
limitless UNIVERSE SHATTERING Psionic powers
lay now at the whim, of Diablo"
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Next ...
Originally posted by GalacticStormIn fact we can even go over to marvunapp where it states that both combatants attacks threatened to destroy that dimension however no mention is made of Elsewhen being destroyed
On Panel >>> Bios.
Bios are only valid if they correspond with On panel evidence. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStormTherefore any attempt to place Psi Lord on a universal scale and above beings such as the abstracts based on his play on words which you misinterpreted, is quite ridiculous.
Originally posted by GalacticStormDiablo’s comments are not conclusive proof of your interpretation. Franklin is known to have vast potential, so for all we know he is referring to that. Given that the Elsewhen dimension was conclusively intact after Psi Lords attack, (as illustrated clearly by the fact that the heroes were still running around in it) your opinion on the validity of Diablo’s comments and the above comic scenes in general are unfortunately for you, far from accurate.
Nice try.
Good try Emmie, but your misinterpretation stands revealed to us all.
I dont need to counter your counter attempt quote for quote when my previous posts have this issue handled.
Franklin states that he was attacking with anti matter wrapped in a force field.
Huntara says they will be annihilated if they stay so she prays that her scythe can carry her and her companions to safety. That is all
Nowhere was it ever stated that she was transporting herself and the others into another dimension. And given the fact that she looks back and sees Psi Lords "anti-matter implosion" in the "southern-most sky" that conclusively shows you that she merely transported a distance away so she wasn't at Ground Zero.
Nowhere is it stated on panel that that dimension was destroyed
and nowhere is it stated that Huntara teleported into another dimension. Therefore you have no justification to state the contrary.
The game is up, Psi Lord didnt even destroy a planet, your misinterpretation whilst unfortunate for you, is rather amusing 😆
Once again.
Good try 🙂
Unless you're gonna show us where its stated that Huntara took them outside of Elsewhen(Despite her being able to turn around and see Psi Lords attack in "the southern-most sky"😉
Unless you're going to show us where its stated that the dimension was destroyed after Psi Lords attack(Which will be pretty hard to do considering Huntara was able to watch the aftermath of the attack from a vantage point within the same dimension)
Then give it a rest mate 🙂
I have no idea what those two posts say, but I'm sure it involves firefirefireph
but just wanted to give you an update,
if you haven't realized, you're talking to yourself.
So, jump around, pat yourself on the back,
scream, "I am king" ...
tell me "your misinterpretation" blah, blah, blah, sincerely ... who
Proof was posted, you want to spin it to your liking, do you, no one's being fooled.
Peace & love. 🙂 ... no need to enter this thread again.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I have no idea what those two posts say, but I'm sure it involves firefirefireph
but just wanted to give you an update,
if you haven't realized, you're talking to yourself.So, jump around, pat yourself on the back,
scream, "I am king" ...
tell me "your misinterpretation" blah, blah, blah, sincerely ... whoProof was posted, you want to spin it to your liking, do you, no one's being fooled.
Peace & love. 🙂 ... no need to enter this thread again.
Typical response from someone who has been left stumped 🙂
You presented no new evidence. As per usual, you just repeated your opinion.
Nowhere on panel is it stated that Huntara teleported into another dimension in her attempt to flee Psi Lords attack.
That is an assumption made by yourself, one you have no justification in making and presenting as fact.
The fact that she reappears in a similar looking environment to the one she left and then turns around and sees Psi Lords attack in the southern-most sky confirms:
1) That contrary to your assumption, she teleported to a vantage point within the same environment
2) That Psi Lords attack did not destroy the entire dimension
Diablos comments in a different issue, on a different matter are irrelevant as they are not specifically related to the Elsewhen situation. Its just Diablo referring to the scale of Psi Lords psi powers. Elsewhen is not referred to by Diablo therefore it is not conclusively supportive of your interpretation. Sorry mate 🙁
Please show us where it states on panel that Huntara teleported into another dimension to escape, because as far as we see on panel, she just teleported far enough away to be safe, but close enough for her to see the attack in "the southern-most sky"
Please show us where it states that the Elsewhen dimension was destroyed. The heroes are shown within the dimension after Psi Lords attack and in the end Vangaard leaves them in said dimension and flies off.
No waffle, no reposts, just show us where its stated.
Thank you. 🙂
