Parallax vs the whole marvel universe

Started by Mr Master4 pages

Originally posted by Galan007

parallax owned the time trapper [check out his respect thread for feats] and zh-extant [who was a > universal destroyer]. owning those two alone, is an uber display of power.

he then wiped out all remaining timelines [which are universes in themselves], by destroying dc's prime universe [the "crescendo" as it were]. after this, parallax began constructing a new creation in the void of the old one. in the midst of this construction process, he was simultaneously battling the collective heroes from dc, and spectre himself. though he eventually lost to spectre [which isn't a low showing, mind you] his feats were very impressive. top 10-20 in a hierarchy, more than likely.


Thanx G, he is impressive 👆

Just one thing,
when you say he erased the remaining Timelines by destroying the DC Prime Universe,
do you mean,
the destruction of the other UniverseS
was an inadvertent result of wiping out the Prime Reality?

Sorta like what happens when one erases 616 in Marvel?

I think I have that scene, is this it?

"Parallax ATTEMPTED to create new World's and Timelines,
fool that he was UNABLE to Control the forces he'd unleashed,
entire Timelines began to collapse,
as alternate Timelines seeped in and out of existence
"

Originally posted by Mr Master
do you mean,
the destruction of the other UniverseS
was an inadvertent result of wiping out the Prime Reality?

Sorta like what happens when one erases 616 in Marvel?

yes. granted, parallax had extant wiping out individual timelines so that his own actions could go 'unseen'. but when he erased the main universe, it created a chain reaction, so to speak, which erased all remaining timelines. a complete 'universal' feat.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

I've just skimmed through some of the info Mr Master posted on him, since I wasn't familiar to him at all,
and he doesn't seem to be more than a Universal power.
Capable of supposdley destroying any Universe in the Omniverse
but, still, a Universal power. Is there something I missed ?


Actually, Vanguaard seems to exist across multiple Realities simultaneously,
which probably explains why he can erase Timelines back to back effortlessly:

Although it's true, he takes out one Universe at a time,
we can't constrict him to just a Universal power because of this,
remember, he exists with a cosmic purpose,
his job is to erase redundant Timelines,
and since Timelies are diverging at every instant, he has his hands full,
apparently even with his simultaneous multiple manifestations,
so he can't erase the Multiverse entire, even he had the power to do it,
not saying he could at all, I really can't say for sure, but we know even if he could,
he can't since he acts on protocol.

Still though,
he proved he could withstand Time & Space being obliterated in his face,
without giving him pause,
also,
he was going to own Psi-Lord, who couldn't faze him,
and Psi-Lord = Universal power.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

I also found something interesting while looking at the scans. Apparently, the Marvel Universe has a certain amount of 'energy', and with each alternate Universe being created, more and more of that energy is being 'used' sort to speak, which is why Vangaard destroys the Universes. So practically, the Marvel Universe is the energy of a Universe, only divided between multipled Universes.


While that's true,
that part of the deal pertains only to one Multiverse:

Not the Omniverse entire,
which encompasses as you know an infinite amount of MultiverseS.

Although, the Prime Multiverse (616 in fact) supports the Omniverse,
so you may be right anyway Erik. 🙂

btw, Just for info's sake,
Vanguaard has erased at-least 1,000,000 Timelines:


Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

It is also a logical thing, which, as seen in some scans posted not so long ago on this board, applies to the DC Universe aswell (IIRC). It was something about the DC Multiverse being created, and each Universes being 'inferior' to the original, single Universe, or something of that sort. Just a thought, and it is based mostly on just fast-reading some scans, so it might not be accurate, thus why I must read the issues for myself.


That sounds interesting, it does resemble Marvel,
because 616 contains the infinite power of the prime Multiverse,
and evidently,
it's from withIN 616
that the natural creation energy of all Marvel Timelines & Alternate Realities is born.

Of course, there are other Universes,
that are created by self-sufficient beings of ample power.

But the vast majority of Marvel stems from 616.

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Galan once gave an analogy that defines this very subject perfectly:

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"The 616 Universe is like a boundless Ocean....
An Ocean which stems into a boundless amount of lakes....
Lakes which stem into a boundless amount of diverging rivers.....
Rivers which stem into a boundless amount of diverging streams,
and a boundless amount of diverging tributaries after those....
And so on and so forth, infinitely.....

All of these lakes, rivers, streams, tributaries, etc,
are what make up the entire Marvel Omniverse.

Dry up one of those diverging streams or tributaries,
and you just lose that one body of water, as it is basically it's own entity...

However,

Dry up the original Ocean,
and you dry up everything stemming from it
, (the Marvel Omniverse),
as all is fed by, and stems from, that one initial Ocean."

Galan gets the credit for this. 👆

Originally posted by fangirl101
Exactly. Nor with Korvak or Reed Richards.

But the LT didn't have an issue with Protege, he had Scathan. The situation was handled rather quickly.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr

I've just skimmed through some of the info Mr Master posted on him, since I wasn't familiar to him at all, and he doesn't seem to be more than a Universal power. Capable of supposdley destroying any Universe in the Omniverse but, still, a Universal power. Is there something I missed ? He kind of reminds me of the Adjudicator. What issues did he appear in ?

You're quite right. Some people here make the mistake of confusing power with role.

Vangaard may operate over an area greater than the universal, however he has never, ever demonstrated himself to be anything other than a universal power.

Destroying universes not simultaneously, but one after the other does not make you anything but universal. 🙂

I've yearned for the day where powered is measured in universes destroyed and timelines erased. And that day has come.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I've yearned for the day where powered is measured in universes destroyed and timelines erased. And that day has come.

I'm happy for you 🙂