Superman & Firestorm vs Silver Surfer & WWH

Originally posted by fangirl101
Now how in the hell would surfer take out superman faster than firestorm takes out hulk? lets look at the facts shall we? Superman is far faster than hulk and more mobile. Firestorm has contained Thor before on the fly. How in the world would hulk last more than one second against firestorm? Superman canput up a really long fight against the surfer. Even when Superman was fighting triumph, who would be more powerful than surfer, he put up a long fight. What the hell is surfer, the freaking spectre or something.

You call ABC logic the facts? Surfer could easily initially contain supes in an enrgy bubble and whack him with his weakness or BFR him sending him out of the fight. The thor firestorm contained, was it marvel thor? Cuz if it was it was a crossover and means nothing. Evn if it wasnt it means nothing as well. For firestorm to take out WWH hed have to mess with his enrgy not simply try to contain him. WWH will then put up some resistance but will be overcome. Draining resisiting WWH of his enrgy howver would take longer than SS instantly trapping supes in an enrgy sphere and BFRing him.

Also i dont know what ur trying to prove with ur reference to triumph. I dont know who he is but no matter who he is saying that supes put up a gud fight against him and so would do the same with SS is really lame logic considering that they are not adopting the same fighting strategy. ABC logic fails most of the time.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
You call ABC logic the facts? Surfer could easily initially contain supes in an enrgy bubble and whack him with his weakness or BFR him sending him out of the fight. The thor firestorm contained, was it marvel thor? Cuz if it was it was a crossover and means nothing. Evn if it wasnt it means nothing as well. For firestorm to take out WWH hed have to mess with his enrgy not simply try to contain him. WWH will then put up some resistance but will be overcome. Draining resisiting WWH of his enrgy howver would take longer than SS instantly trapping supes in an enrgy sphere and BFRing him.

Also i dont know what ur trying to prove with ur reference to triumph. I dont know who he is but no matter who he is saying that supes put up a gud fight against him and so would do the same with SS is really lame logic considering that they are not adopting the same fighting strategy. ABC logic fails most of the time.

Triumph could drain superman of his energy. It's not an instant thing. And How can surfer easily trap superman? has he ever done so to anyone as fast as superman? wouldn't he have to stuggle to maintain the bubble you speak of? How is he going to keep pouring all the power into just holding superman and then turn around and pummel superman with his weaknesses? And yes it was marvel thor that firestorm contained. firestorm has a couple of powers that would do wwh in in a second flat. the first is his cosmic containment shields. unbreakable. Kinda like his inertron powers. Nothing gets thru them. Or he can just zeta beam the hulks head off.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Triumph could drain superman of his energy. It's not an instant thing. And How can surfer easily trap superman? has he ever done so to anyone as fast as superman? wouldn't he have to stuggle to maintain the bubble you speak of? How is he going to keep pouring all the power into just holding superman and then turn around and pummel superman with his weaknesses? And yes it was marvel thor that firestorm contained. firestorm has a couple of powers that would do wwh in in a second flat. the first is his cosmic containment shields. unbreakable. Kinda like his inertron powers. Nothing gets thru them. Or he can just zeta beam the hulks head off.

Did Triumph attempt to drain supermans enrgy? Also has triumphed ever almost instantly drained a beings enrgy before. Surfer has drained beings of their enrgy in seconds so it does not take time. Also surfer would not have to struggle to maintain any bubbles. In his recent nova appearance he shielded multiple ships in a different location from Galactus just by blinking. His shield has also easily protected a city from Firelords fury and has also gone unscathed from a very angry hulks onslaught. All this while he was not evn trying very hard. He would not need to be " pouring in the power" to contain supes long enough to BFR him or use weakness exploitation. It really would not be that hard.

Now to firestorm. Unbreakable cosmic containment shields? IS this a claim made by him or is it verifiable? Cuz surfers enrgy shields have been described as unbreakable as well. IS there any proof of this or are u just assuming it? And also id like to get some info on his zeta beams, feats and such to prove that he can simply blast hulks head off.

Team one for a solid majority.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Did Triumph attempt to drain supermans enrgy? Also has triumphed ever almost instantly drained a beings enrgy before. Surfer has drained beings of their enrgy in seconds so it does not take time. Also surfer would not have to struggle to maintain any bubbles. In his recent nova appearance he shielded multiple ships in a different location from Galactus just by blinking. His shield has also easily protected a city from Firelords fury and has also gone unscathed from a very angry hulks onslaught. All this while he was not evn trying very hard. He would not need to be " pouring in the power" to contain supes long enough to BFR him or use weakness exploitation. It really would not be that hard.

Now to firestorm. Unbreakable cosmic containment shields? IS this a claim made by him or is it verifiable? Cuz surfers enrgy shields have been described as unbreakable as well. IS there any proof of this or are u just assuming it? And also id like to get some info on his zeta beams, feats and such to prove that he can simply blast hulks head off.

Seems you argue against FS and SM without having a good understanding of thier feats and histories. Are you arguing powersets alone?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Seems you argue against FS and SM without having a good understanding of thier feats and histories. Are you arguing powersets alone?

I have good knowledge of supermans history and feats howver i do admit my vague knowledge of firestorm. Howver the onus is not on me to provide evidence to substantiate ur argument. The questions i asked regarding the so called unbreakability of his contaiment fields and the power of his zeta beams are valid questions in this debate. Or do u expect me just 2 take ur word for it?

Superman labotamizes the Hulk. 😐

or he can bfr the hulk.

or he can speedblitz him.

or throw strong enough punches to destroy small planets.

Then its a two on one assualt on the Surfer.

Originally posted by janus77
😂

that's low 😐.

Yeah...me and this board have a shinning thing going. Anyhow the issue with this fight is WWH won't be able to contribute anything and the combine might of Superman and FS is to much for even SS to handle. I think SS could take Supes and FS in a sole controntation but together there are to much for him to handle. Team 1 with a overwhealming majoirty.

Team 2 wins.