Dateline: To Catch A Predator

its a tough one

the show is immoral

the sting is not

it is terrible and dishonest, but the fact remains, even if the kid is jumping your cock, you have to say no. Underage kids are not legally able to consent, and it HAS to be the adult that is mature

and no, this doesn't take human psychology into account

I'm not sure why people act like everything is always so black and white (meaning very simple; not race).

How is it immoral when the decoy pretending to be the 14 year old factually isn't "jumping your cock"? The men are the ones that initially engage the decoy, bring up sex and they have to show up at the house before anything can happen to them.

It relies on them, even if the engage the decoy and start having an online sex-like conversation, they're still in the clear as long as they don't show up at the house.

(This was to Inimalist)

I mean televising the arrest of pedophiles

its pretty sick how entertaining I find it

obviously the men are breaking the law, I have nothing against the prosecution of them, but it is totally a "freak show" phenomenon.

Originally posted by chithappens
I'm not sure why people act like everything is always so black and white (meaning very simple; not race).

Because in this case it basically is, if the men didn't physically show up at the house, then they wouldn't be arrested. They can say whatever sexual thing they like to the decoy, if they jerk off all over their keyboard and leave it at that, they don't get busted.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because in this case it basically is, if the men didn'y physically show up at the house, then they wouldn't be arrested. They can say whatever sexual thing they like to the decoy, if they jerk off all over their keyboard and leave it at that, they don't get busted.

many times on the show, men will not show up, and police are subsequently sent to their homes to arrest them for corrupting a minor or, if they sent pictures of themselves, distributing harmful pictures

I think the show is brilliant. These people (the pedophiles) should be humiliated, why is it be immoral to 'sting' them? Why is the way it's done considered immoral? I love it.

Originally posted by inimalist
many times on the show, men will not show up, and police are subsequently sent to their homes to arrest them for corrupting a minor or, if they sent pictures of themselves, distributing harmful pictures

Sending adult orientated material to a minor is illegal. Again, it's their foul.

Edit: Are you sure about this though as it happening on the show? New to me.

Originally posted by Syren
I think the show is brilliant. These people (the pedophiles) should be humiliated, why is it be immoral to 'sting' them? Why is the way it's done considered immoral? I love it.

Of course you could ask the same thing about sex with minors.

Originally posted by Syren
I think the show is brilliant. These people (the pedophiles) should be humiliated, why is it be immoral to 'sting' them? Why is the way it's done considered immoral? I love it.

why is it immoral to show someone at their lowest point on television for the ammusment of other people at their desperate situation?

I mean, there are eppisodes where the pedophiles get on their knees and beg for forgiveness.

I'm not asking for sympathy for these people, it is, however, important to remember the "people" part of that, and, you know, maybe not take delight in someones life being ruined forever, even if it is their own fault?

I've only seen the show a few times, but every time it seemed really odd to me that people want to watch it. All it seems to do is stoke the flames of paranoia, and give the illusion that these people are apparently absolutely everywhere.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sending adult orientated material to a minor is illegal. Again, it's their foul.

Edit: Are you sure about this though as it happening on the show? New to me.

positive, all the eppisodes are on Youtube, and my friends and I spent a good amount of time enjoying it. When I'm home later, if I get a chance, I'll link one up.

yes, sending adult oriented material to a minor is a crime. One that should include public humiliation as part of the punishment, especially considering the person recieving the message wasn't actually a minor? (I know it doesn't matter legally, but it s weird, at least to me)

This reminds me of the episode of The Office earlier this year, where they had a booth at a high school career fair. Nobody was checking out their booth, and Michael (Steve Carell) said "It's really hard to lure kids these days. Thanks a lot Chris Hansen!".

Originally posted by inimalist
its pretty sick how entertaining I find it

"I don't know how you guys walk around with those things."
--Elaine Benes

The show really started very good. I remember watching it.

But lately...it cares more about getting higher ratings than actually capturing the criminals and doing something good.

Just another one of thoses cases that something good gets caught in it's own greed.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
All it seems to do is stoke the flames of paranoia, and give the illusion that these people are apparently absolutely everywhere.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

Originally posted by inimalist
why is it immoral to show someone at their lowest point on television for the ammusment of other people at their desperate situation?

I mean, there are eppisodes where the pedophiles get on their knees and beg for forgiveness.

I'm not asking for sympathy for these people, it is, however, important to remember the "people" part of that, and, you know, maybe not take delight in someones life being ruined forever, even if it is their own fault?

Well, it has a large demographic appeal. With "...15 out of every 100 Americans who have been either a molested child or a molester"*, there's going to be quite a few people delighting in the misfortune of people who take advantage of minors. For some, it is a form of indirect justice. In America, you've either been sexually abused or your know several people that have been sexually abused.

More to the point...has humanity REALLY become more civilized over the years? Some people laugh at how barbaric their ancestors were for their Colosseum's and public torturings and executions. However, that's a very ignorant and closed minded perspective. We have such a ready access to any form of media that we are, in my opinion, more barbaric then ever before. You can watch snuff films on the internet. You can watch executions, rapes, child porn, very violent movies, criminals being taken down (things like the thread's topic and cops) etc.etc.etc.

* http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pages/tell_others_the_facts.html

Originally posted by Mindship
Have you put your address through this?

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

Do you realize that you could be come a sex offender for mooning someone?

I could be a sex offender many times over. I just wasn't caught mooning.

Originally posted by chithappens
The kid would not even have a sexual discussion online if their parents talked to them! Why is that so hard to get?

Lawls! That's the biggest load of bull I've ever heard. My mom has the "beware of sexual predators online" talk with me monthly but you still see me here, hell, I was using this forum when I was 13. No, parents don't stop kids from talking to people over the interwebs, sex-related conversation included.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Do you realize that you could be come a sex offender for mooning someone?