batman vs batman

Originally posted by nimbus006
This is not even close.

Keaton's fight scenes were some of the worst coordinated fighting sequences ever.

BB and TDK at least attempted to use real MA tactics in their movies.

Additionally, Bale is younger and in much better shape than Keaton was at the time.

At least i could actually see Keatons fights. Where as in TDK and especially BB, the cameras were so close, you couldnt even see the moves.

Keaton used MA moves a couple of times in the movie. Other times, like Bale, there were only punches being thrown. I dont know about you, bt when Bale was Batman, i saw a bunch of punches being thrown as well. All non ma's esque as well.

Also, talks about Keaton not being like comic Bats cause he killed, yet who was it that killed Twoface in TDK and set fire to Ras al Guls palce and left him to die in BB? Hmmm.

what, exactly, would you call keaton kicking the thug if not fighting back? i'm curious. last i checked, kicking someone was a way of fighting. its really quite obvious that he just got his ass kicked and killed the thug out of desperation. an act almost as desperate as YOU are trying to make that fight a positive for keaton. its kinda pathetic actually. "he let him beat on him to tire him out!" yeah! thats why that happened! he couldn't possibly be getting hit legit! keaton was letting it happen! my fanboyism won't have it any other way!

also, if keaton was just trying to wear the thug out, why did he do that shitty dive at the thug that just got him thrown? after keaton was thrown the thug was pounding on him, and knocked his ass down the bell tower. oh wait, keaton planned on having the thug beat his ass towards the bell tower, and then planned on having the thug knock him down it. right. keep reaching for that rainbow. soon you'll reach the stars! does that seem like a stupidly elborate way of taking someone out if you could just have beaten his ass normally to anyone else?

The thug had his head through the broken wooden wall looking for Bats. All bats did was kick him on the side to get his attention. Is it your interpretation that Batman was fighting back? Or rather is it you interpretation that Batman couldnt fight back? I see you go the route of saying fanboyism blah blah, yet in every single fight scene, Keaton clearly defends than attacks. For some reason you believe hes unable to A. Defend and B. Beat him in combat? Lol. Ok i see your logic.

If you take a look at the movie again, notice Keaton got the thugs attention BEFORE diving hence him ringing the bell and getting the thugs attention.😬 Yea im reaching. I guess Keaton was just like "Hey i can block swords and bullets, but i seem to have forgot how to throw a punch against THIS thug!". Ok.

Is this really a debate. Bale's Batman spent several years training, and didn't get pwned by a guy with zero martial arts experience. Also, the dogs didn't pwn him as he was able to easily throw them off. Again, this is a curbstomp for Bale's Batman...and Bale himself would beat the shit out of Keaton in real life.

*sigh* the more elaborate your explanation for something simple in a movie, more likely it is you're reaching. your explanation for why keaton was getting his ass kicked is incredibly elborate, when all keaton had to do was kick the thugs ass if he had that ability.

he was just trying to get the thugs attention with the kick? LOL.
why not just take advantage and kick the crap out of the thug while his head was through the board? oh wait, thats exactly what keaton TRIED to do. but ended up getting his ass kicked. no, instead you claim that keaton was trying to just get the thugs attention to follow through with some incredibly stupid plan to tire him out. it would have required much less effort to simply beat the crap out of the thug at that point then to go through with this elaborate plan you're making up.

Bale's Batman had greater maneuverability, agility, and speed. Plus he could turn his neck. 😐

And bringing up the dogs is an extremely weak argument. He isn't fighting the dogs here, he's fighting another person.

Bale's Batman in a stomp.

^

George Clooney schools both.

That's not even funny.

Also, Keaton's Batman didn't even display great martial arts, Bale's did. He actually committed himself to learning all he could and he learned from the best.

Suit me up, Uncle Alfred.

yeah, they actually focused on bale batmans fighting ability in his movies. not so with keatons batman.

Originally posted by Val-E-Doosh
George Clooney schools both.

Here at the 3:40 mark, Keaton bats shows more skill as Batman than Bale has as Batman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Kg9xmOzEU

we've all seen the movie. we just don't think thats as impressive as bale. bale batman for the win.

Keatons batman showed the superior reflexes than Bale in deflecting the bullet Jack Napier shot.

As far as martial arts goes, yes Bale was shown to have trained in the arts, yet while as Batman, he was a brawler and didnt really use any martial arts skills at all.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
i seriously hope your joking there 🙁

Originally posted by jrodslam
As far as martial arts goes, yes Bale was shown to have trained in the arts, yet while as Batman, he was a brawler and didnt really use any martial arts skills at all.

bale showed himself to be a great figher in batman begins when he took out those ninjas and stuff. in the dark knight he just got whipped to many damn times through out the movie. keaton kicked ass fighting in both movies. the only one to give him a chalenging fight was catwoman

Originally posted by Val-E-Doosh
Dude, your bones will turn to ice! Your blood will freeze in my hands!

Originally posted by spidey-dude
bale showed himself to be a great figher in batman begins when he took out those ninjas and stuff. in the dark knight he just got whipped to many damn times through out the movie. keaton kicked ass fighting in both movies. the only one to give him a chalenging fight was catwoman

Lulz. Catwoman. crylaugh

And don't forget the thug in the tower who has handing him an ass whooping.