Strong Guy vs She-Hulk

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He had blood coming out of his mouth after being kicked in the junk.
Just because he dodged one hit does not mean he's going to do it all day. Otherwise Emma wouldn't have told him to back off. I like SG but he was shown to be useless in the fight.

Oh, and Guido did look finished before he was rescured by Polaris.

Why he had blood coming out of his mouth is beyond me. Again, its a kick in the balls. Guido was dodging Hulks his from the time he showed up in WWHXM. The only attack he was hit with was the thunderclap. He was boxing hulk all that time and hulk finally told to stop dancing around. Emma telling him to back off again, is lack of knowledge from the writer or he just didnt care to put it, but he was told to back off from the fight, yet panels later he shields nightcrawler and others and absorbs part of the jet engine explosion. SG was as Useless in the fight as Colossus was technically. At least he got the better hit in.

And Guido may have looked finished, but in the next page hes clearly shown on the monitor back in the fight.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Strong Guy is one of my faves man.

Same.

Originally posted by jrodslam
SG was as Useless in the fight as Colossus was technically. At least he got the better hit in.

Originally posted by jrodslam

And Guido may have looked finished, but in the next page hes clearly shown on the monitor back in the fight.
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Originally posted by jrodslam
When did he take SG out without any problems?

Also, where is Shulkies strength lvl currently?

Uncanny X-men 278:

Rogue going all out is strong enough to take out Strong Guy. No long drawn out struggle. Nothing but a knock out punch.

She Hulk is now class 100. She is at least twice as strong as either Rogue or Strong Guy. She Hulk would win this.

Rogue kayoed SG a few issues after that too iirc.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Uncanny X-men 278:

Rogue going all out is strong enough to take out Strong Guy. No long drawn out struggle. Nothing but a knock out punch.

She Hulk is now class 100. She is at least twice as strong as either Rogue or Strong Guy. She Hulk would win this.

Ahh i figured you was talking about that. Yea i have that book.

How can you say she didnt it with no problems when its clear Guido dominated her at the start. She was down and Guido stopped his assault. Jamie even yelled "Hit her again Guido! We wanna see pain! We wanna see blood!" and he didnt. Nothing but a knock out punch? She was shown to hit him more than 2 times.

Strong Guy has taken more than that from Blob and hes stronger than what they were then as well.😬

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Rogue kayoed SG a few issues after that too iirc.

2 issues later and no she didint. She hit Guido once or twice then let beast take over and get his hits in. Thus technically, it was Beast and not her. And i still call bs on that.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ahh i figured you was talking about that. Yea i have that book.

How can you say she didnt it with no problems when its clear Guido dominated her at the start. She was down and Guido stopped his assault. Jamie even yelled "Hit her again Guido! We wanna see pain! We wanna see blood!" and he didnt. Nothing but a knock out punch? She was shown to hit him more than 2 times.

Strong Guy has taken more than that from Blob and hes stronger than what they were then as well.😬

Guido was hardly dominating the fight. From the offset, he surprised Rogue and slammed her into a wall. Thats all he had a chance to do before Rogue took over.

Guido was felled in the end with one knockout punch from Rogue. She Hulk going all out would devastate him considering she's twice as strong as either of them.

On top of that, whilst in possession of Ms Marvels powers, she has always been class 50. She has never gone up or down in strength unless absorbing the powers of another. Blob is nowhere near class 50 and never has been.

Regardless. Rogue at class 50, the same strength level as Guido at his max, clearly dominated Guido purely in a h2h match. She Hulk would be too much for him.

Originally posted by jrodslam
2 issues later and no she didint. She hit Guido once or twice then let beast take over and get his hits in. Thus technically, it was Beast and not her. And i still call bs on that.

Irrelevant given how she clearly out fought him on her own just 2 issues before.

Strong Guys a cool character, but he's no major powerhouse. 😬

Was this before Guido could absorb hits? Or is there a threshold to the minimum amount he can absorb?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Guido was hardly dominating the fight. From the offset, he surprised Rogue and slammed her into a wall. Thats all he had a chance to do before Rogue took over.

Guido didnt dominate the fight in the beginning? He surprised her? It was an arena setting. She knew she was going to fight. There was no surprise.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Guido was felled in the end with one knockout punch from Rogue. She Hulk going all out would devastate him considering she's twice as strong as either of them.

On top of that, whilst in possession of Ms Marvels powers, she has always been class 50. She has never gone up or down in strength unless absorbing the powers of another. Blob is nowhere near class 50 and never has been.

Guido fell in the end due to him, 1. Letting up on Rogue and 2. Multiple hits from Rogue.

Funny how they were both in the same class, yet his kinetic absorptions powers werent around? Especially hes taken much worse punishment. Blob is nowhere near class 50?🤨 Blob was above class 50.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Regardless. Rogue at class 50, the same strength level as Guido at his max, clearly dominated Guido purely in a h2h match. She Hulk would be too much for him.

False. Guido at his max is uncalculated, thus well over class 50. She only dominated him in the end considering his powers didnt seem to be working.😬

Originally posted by lft4ded
Was this before Guido could absorb hits? Or is there a threshold to the minimum amount he can absorb?

Thats what im wondering. Considering they were both in the same class lvl, he should have absorbed all of her hits including the impact from the wall. For some reason, that power wasnt displayed.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Guido didnt dominate the fight in the beginning? He surprised her? It was an arena setting. She knew she was going to fight. There was no surprise.

Guido fell in the end due to him, 1. Letting up on Rogue and 2. Multiple hits from Rogue.

Regardless of the ins and outs, the result is exactly as i stated. She out fought him, she nailed him, he went down. 🙂

Originally posted by jrodslam
Funny how they were both in the same class, yet his kinetic absorptions powers werent around? Especially hes taken much worse punishment. Blob is nowhere near class 50?🤨 Blob was above class 50.

The Blob is a class 5 according to the handbooks. Surely you're mistaken immovability with strength. Please reference some handbooks.

Originally posted by jrodslam
False. Guido at his max is uncalculated, thus well over class 50. She only dominated him in the end considering his powers didnt seem to be working.😬

Says who? Thats your assumption. Guido absorbs kinetic energy to empower himself. Do you know specific details of the rate he can efficiently convert kinetic attacks into his own personal energy reserves?

For all we know the speed and ferocity of Rogues attack overcame his durability at a greater rate than his energy absorption could compensate for.

For example, Storm can absorb and channel electrical energy within reason and at a comfortable rate. However if you hit her with a sharp sudden electrical attack then her durability is overcome at a rate too great for her powers to come into play.

Even with energy absorption at his side. Guido can be hurt whilst being dealt the blows which give him the kinetic energy in the first place. He has limited durability. He can be knocked out.

And as indicated by Rogues confrontations with Guido, hit him hard and fast enough and his energy absorption powers aren't given a chance to come into play.

She Hulk is twice as strong as Rogue, she is twice as Strong as Guidos base level. Guido can still be hurt and knocked out, even when absorbing energy from attacks. On top of that, when he reaches his threshold, he must expel his energy within 90 seconds. He cannot stay empowered for long and the effort tires him.

She Hulk too gets stronger as she angers, plus she's twice as strong as him to begin with. Unlike Guido, her strength isnt going anywhere in a minute and a half.

She Hulk wins.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

The Blob is a class 5 according to the handbooks. Surely you're mistaken immovability with strength. Please reference some handbooks.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blob was originally listed as a 5 tonner. But since further mutation Blob was put as a Class 75 in the Master Edition handbooks.

she-hulk for the win.

guido's heart is going to pop out of his chest like a jack-in-the-box.

Originally posted by jrodslam
False. Guido at his max is uncalculated, thus well over class 50. She only dominated him in the end considering his powers didnt seem to be working.😬

Uncalculated? He'll get a heart attack pretty fast.

She hulk would stomp him.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Regardless of the ins and outs, the result is exactly as i stated. She out fought him, she nailed him, he went down. 🙂

We cant disregard all the ins and outs because its clear that he already had her beat, but let up on her. True she won. Im cant argue that. However him letting up on her and not finishing her off while she was down is the only reason he got defeated.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Blob is a class 5 according to the handbooks. Surely you're mistaken immovability with strength. Please reference some handbooks.

Before being depowered, Blob wasnt cl 5 for quite some time. He definitely wasnt class 5 when he fought Guido.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Says who? Thats your assumption. Guido absorbs kinetic energy to empower himself. Do you know specific details of the rate he can efficiently convert kinetic attacks into his own personal energy reserves?

For all we know the speed and ferocity of Rogues attack overcame his durability at a greater rate than his energy absorption could compensate for.

For example, Storm can absorb and channel electrical energy within reason and at a comfortable rate. However if you hit her with a sharp sudden electrical attack then her durability is overcome at a rate too great for her powers to come into play.

Says who? Its a fact. Guidos strength grows by the more kinetic energy he absorbs. Its not my assumption. His base strength is cl 50, but hes absorbed kinetic energy to stop a fully loaded 747 coming in at full speed.

Ferocity of Rogues attack overcame his durability and powers? I call that bs. Especially considering hes taken more instant punishment that that and absorbed it.

Storms power isnt to absorb energy. Its Guidos power. Its what he does. To say he was overwhelmed by a sudden impact or force would make sense if he was constantly pounded by someone stronger than him, but it this case it shouldnt stand.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Even with energy absorption at his side. Guido can be hurt whilst being dealt the blows which give him the kinetic energy in the first place. He has limited durability. He can be knocked out.

And as indicated by Rogues confrontations with Guido, hit him hard and fast enough and his energy absorption powers aren't given a chance to come into play.

Im not sayig Guido cant be hurt. I know he can. I also know he can be knocked out. Im just saying that its difficult to knock him out(especially when powers arent ignored).

As i stated, in his second confrontation with Rogue, she hit him twice then Beast took over. Beast knocking out SG? Pfft.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
She Hulk is twice as strong as Rogue, she is twice as Strong as Guidos base level. Guido can still be hurt and knocked out, even when absorbing energy from attacks. On top of that, when he reaches his threshold, he must expel his energy within 90 seconds. He cannot stay empowered for long and the effort tires him.

She Hulk too gets stronger as she angers, plus she's twice as strong as him to begin with. Unlike Guido, her strength isnt going anywhere in a minute and a half.

Yes, Shulkie is stronger than base lvl Strong Guy, and yes he can still be knocked out, but so can she. As far as him reaching his threshold of kinetic energy, i doubt hed reach it just from her punches alone. If they are in combat with each other, 90 seconds is plenty of time to take it and dish it back.

She Hulk getting stronger as she angers is nothing like Hulks. Guido having to extinguish the extra energy wouldnt be a problem in a fight with shulkie.

If written properly, a fight between the two would be a drawn out one. The reason id give Guido a slight edge is for the simple fact that a punch or punches from her shouldnt overload him and once dished back out at her, shed fall from basically having her own punches thrown back at her and them some.