Originally posted by Bardock42I have already explained this in vivid detail. I elaborated that Han will LIKELY see him first.
Actually, what you said was thatwhile
So, you didn't even say he has to pull the trigger...no...in your scenario...HE ALREADY DID!!!
Way to go making a fair and balanced thread, clown.
So maybe the opening post wasn't exactly done right, I went back and stated, in great detail, numerous times, what was likely to happen. What say we move past this?
Originally posted by dadudemonIt's been firmly established that bringing the comics/novelizations/anything not in the movies leaves far too much room for discrepancy.
RJ, If we go by just the movies, I am pretty sure Han gets the drop and wins the fight. The comic book version of Cyke would probably win.But wouldn't his wife be with him?
And in this scenario, Jean is dead.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I have already explained this in vivid detail. I elaborated that Han will LIKELY see him first.So maybe the opening post wasn't exactly done right, I went back and stated, in great detail, numerous times, what was likely to happen. What say we move past this?
Geez, you shouldn't go back and correct anything, you honestly don't know how to start a Vs. thread, it's okay, no shame in that, however you just f*cked the thread. It's completly wacky now because you have two things going on, one that LIKELY would happen LIKELY wouldn't, and like, who's to judge? This fight will never happen, so it'll come down to a very uninteresting "his word against his word" argument. Great job btw.
Originally posted by ScytheWhatever you say, man 😄
Geez, you shouldn't go back and correct anything, you honestly don't know how to start a Vs. thread, it's okay, no shame in that, however you just f*cked the thread. It's completly wacky now because you have to things going on, one that LIKELY would happen LIKELY wouldn't, and like, who's to judge? This fight will never happen, so it'll come down to a very uninteresting "his word against his word" argument. Great job btw.
Originally posted by Scythe
Geez, you shouldn't go back and correct anything, you honestly don't know how to start a Vs. thread, it's okay, no shame in that, however you just f*cked the thread. It's completly wacky now because you have to things going on, one that LIKELY would happen LIKELY wouldn't, and like, who's to judge? This fight will never happen, so it'll come down to a very uninteresting "his word against his word" argument. Great job btw.
1. You sig...damn. droolio
2. Isn't that the whole point of these vs. debates? We each justify, with as much fact as possible, why the person we believe would win, wins. Granted, some justify their positions better than others.
Originally posted by dadudemon
1. You sig...damn. droolio2. Isn't that the whole point of these vs. debates? We each justify, with as much fact as possible, why the person we believe would win, wins. Granted, some justify their positions better than others.
Yes, what RJ does though in his thread is adjust the scenario in a way that is not fair and strongly or even absolutely favours one combatant over the other.
Originally posted by dadudemon
1. You sig...damn. droolio2. Isn't that the whole point of these vs. debates? We each justify, with as much fact as possible, why the person we believe would win, wins. Granted, some justify their positions better than others.
Yes, that is correct, but given the fact that, well.... Bardock explained it well...
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, what RJ does though in his thread is adjust the scenario in a way that is not fair and strongly or even absolutely favours one combatant over the other.
Originally posted by dadudemon
He can in the comics at one point. I've addressed that whole side of the debate already. I thought I did a handy job clearing all of that up, but bardock said it was poopy. 🙁
I thought it was good, and insightful. Comics Cyclops is actually badass, however this movie version just plain blows. Not to mention the situation RJ has placed him in.
To be honest, Cyclops didn't seem all like the hero he's being made out to be in the comics, toward the end of the second film he started falling apart, because of Jean I know, but I honestly wouldn't doubt it if he leveled the entire cantina with his optic blast or set his visor to stun and well...stun every moving thing inside the cantina.
Originally posted by Scythe
I thought it was good, and insightful.
Thanks, man. 😊
Originally posted by Scythe
Comics Cyclops is actually badass, however this movie version just plain blows. Not to mention the situation RJ has placed him in.To be honest, Cyclops didn't seem all like the hero he's being made out to be in the comics, toward the end of the second film he started falling apart, because of Jean I know, but I honestly wouldn't doubt it if he leveled the entire cantina with his optic blast or set his visor to stun and well...stun every moving thing inside the cantina.
Indeed. I don't like the fact that the movie version doesn't really show his uber leadership skills, didn't show that he had an uncanny ability to bounce his shots off of several objects to hit its target, really nice martial arts skills, and maybe something else I'm forgetting.