Originally posted by TricksterPriestYou could say this about every hero taking on a hero. This is one huge reason that you cant use this as evidence imo.
.....................the dialogue. Logic. -------------- the fact that they weren't trying to kill him. Take your pick. 🤨
Exactly what dialogue though specifically was used to lead you to believe this?
Originally posted by bbrem123
it seem thats in every thread that ww is in she is capable taking here opponent out...even a thor that is 10x his normal self(i guess there isnt any hero in marvel that can beat her) 🙄
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people have there fav character.......not just ww, and unless up against some abstracts, a generally relunctant to give them the thumbs down regardless of information/questions asked by others on this forum.....human nature 😱
There is a difference between "warrior madness" and the Thor from "Blood&Thunder"..Thor talks about entering the "warrior madness" in a couple of comics. One was in the onslaught run but I cant remember which one. He said it basically gives him 10X the STR but with diminished metal capacities..Its a direct play off of a viking beserk rage or "putting on the bear shirt"..
Thor from "blood and thunder" wasnt in the warrior madness, he was just "possessed"(for lack of a better term) and to me he fought without care of others wellbeing...He just didnt give a shit and cut loose..
To me, it's pretty much the same difference. If Thor truly simply cut loose during the B&T arc while maintaining his full powerset, he certainly wasn't written to be intelligently using his powerset there. Everytime I have seen Thor in WM or arguably in WM, he has never used more than physical attacks with the occasional bolts of lightning.
Thor's rarely written using his powers intelligently(for some damn reason).., There would be a big difference between a "berserk" thor and the one in B&T..While berserk he wouldn't even be able to tell friends from enemies..being berserk is a whole lot more than just cutting loose. Its generally a trade off. A huge benefit of Str, durability,endurance and speed VS a great lose of mental capacities..A complete and utter fearlessness with no thought of defeat or death. No stopping until your either dead or unconscious..and yes, mostly relying on physical attacks.. A mindless berserk brute or a evil character with no remorse and a tenth of the raw physical Str of the mindless brute..
I'm not saying Thor can't win. I'm saying WM or whatever he was in during B&T, actually hurts his chances alot.
A Thor using his full powers and abilities, with 10x the power? Of course he'd do well. At least a stalemate, maybe even win 7/10 or better.
But a berserk dumbshit who's just bashing and hitting people? No chance.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestDid you read this arc?
I'm not saying Thor can't win. I'm saying WM or whatever he was in during B&T, actually hurts his chances alot.A Thor using his full powers and abilities, with 10x the power? Of course he'd do well. At least a stalemate, maybe even win 7/10 or better.
But a berserk dumbshit who's just bashing and hitting people? No chance.
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thor's rarely written using his powers intelligently(for some damn reason).., There would be a big difference between a "berserk" thor and the one in B&T..While berserk he wouldn't even be able to tell friends from enemies..being berserk is a whole lot more than just cutting loose. Its generally a trade off. A huge benefit of Str, durability,endurance and speed VS a great lose of mental capacities..A complete and utter fearlessness with no thought of defeat or death. No stopping until your either dead or unconscious..and yes, mostly relying on physical attacks.. A mindless berserk brute or a evil character with no remorse and a tenth of the raw physical Str of the mindless brute..
Agreed that he rarely fights with optimal strategy, but not fighting optimally is very removed from being reduced to brawling.
I agree with most of what you said. I just don't see a noticeable difference between WM Thor and the B&T Thor. Both certainly did not hold back and showed a loss of mental capacities, which lead to the bloodlust, as well as the suboptimal use of powerset.