The Runner w/space gem vs. Superman Prime (guardian)

Started by Dark-Jaxx3 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
No thats you speculating.
No it's really not. Plain as day. SMP is factually faster than Flash as well when he is at standard levels. Is Flash slower than light now?

It's called logic. If you're gonna deny it cause you're biased, be my guest.

Originally posted by carver9
Or you could of just made it just as easy as this, there is no gravity in space so your speed should increase tremendously if theres nothing to weigh you down.

No, the force of gravity has an infinite reach.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
No it's really not. Plain as day. SMP is factually faster than Flash as well when he is at standard levels. Is Flash slower than light now?

It's called logic. If you're gonna deny it cause you're biased, be my guest.

Prove Prime is faster than the Flash.

Originally posted by Astner
No, the force of gravity has an infinite reach.

What do you mean by this post. I understand it but in space things float around due to the gravity being so thin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove Prime is faster than the Flash.
How about the fact that he blitzed three of them? 😬

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
How about the fact that he blitzed three of them? 😬
Does that prove he is faster than them? No, he didnt escape them either. You do realize flash has way more impressive speed feats than Prime.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Does that prove he is faster than them? No, he didnt escape them either. You do realize flash has way more impressive speed feats than Prime.

I see it like this, if prime was to fly beside wally it would be even but flash combat speed>>>>>>>prime. Prime cant hang with flash when its time to fight.

Thats why prime fears fighting the flashes and had to resort in a spin instead of fighting them somewhat like amazo did.

Originally posted by carver9
I see it like this, if prime was to fly beside wally it would be even but flash combat speed>>>>>>>prime. Prime cant hang with flash when its time to fight.

Thats why prime fears fighting the flashes and had to resort in a spin instead of fighting them somewhat like amazo did.

1. Other than he has effortlessly avoiding and blocked them in Sinestro Corps War too right?

2. Pointless semantics. IT was a flurry of punches which appeared to be a tornado.

Originally posted by carver9
What do you mean by this post. I understand it but in space things float around due to the gravity being so thin.

Still, you could keep accelerating matter. It wouldn't reach light-speed.

Originally posted by Astner
Since you have no knowledge of physics and the theory of relativity I'm going to explain it for you.
When traveling in relativistic velocities time and space bends--this is what Einstein got famous for, tearing down Newton's, in comparison, simplistic perspective--meaning that if matter travels in the speed of light between point A and point B the matter will exist in both point A, point B and everywhere in-between simotaniously.
It takes infinite energy to accelerate matter to light-speed--in accelerators scientists have reached the velocities of 99,999999999999% of light speed, and it takes 7 times the energy to make it 99,999999999999[b]9
%. And then 7 times more energy to make it 99,99999999999999%

Now go and read up on modern physics before bringing this debate further. I recommend Feynman's work. [/B]

Going by the speed of light, if an individual were to go from one end of the universe to the other known end of it, it would take an approximated time. The math for it was done in the flash vs silver surfer in a race thread

Superman prime went from one edge of the universe to the other and exited it, assuming were using our worlds physics on DC's then i assume were using this universe aprox known distance as well. Then superman prime did transcend the speed of light. Since he did it from the time the monitor was looking at a screen, to the time he turned his head.

Not only that, purely the distance he covered in the time that passed, shows that he was faster then light speed, because if he was going at the speed of light, light years for time measurement, then everything outside of him, would have been long gone due to aging.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Going by the speed of light, if an individual were to go from one end of the universe to the other known end of it, it would take an approximated time. The math for it was done in the flash vs silver surfer in a race thread

Yes, because light or rather photons have no mass. Matter has mass therefore time and space would bend so that the matter would exist simultaneously on all locations it passes through-out infinity.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Superman prime went from one edge of the universe to the other and exited it, assuming were using our worlds physics on DC's then i assume were using this universe aprox known distance as well. Then superman prime did transcend the speed of light. Since he did it from the time the monitor was looking at a screen, to the time he turned his head.

Transcend light-speed would mean time-travel, and negative space, plain and simple. The only conclusion is--the universe wasn't infinite. Or that the universe was transfinite and he did travel in the speed of light and after set time he reached the transfinite end.
Transfinite levels are levels of infinity.

Originally posted by Board Walker Not only that, purely the distance he covered in the time that passed, shows that he was faster then light speed, because if he was going at the speed of light, light years for time measurement, then everything outside of him, would have been long gone due to aging.

For matter to travel one light-year in a second would mean that it travels in 99,999999666667% the speed of light.

Now grab a book about modern physics and start reading. Most members here are aware of advance physics (relativity, quantum mechanics, m-theory). "Walking" around the boards with the knowledge of a high-school drop-out will only make people laugh at you. Hopefully you will gain from this constructive criticism. If not then feel free to head back to the forums of ignorance a.k.a. NF and CBR.

Faster than Flash? Nah. But he's easily at the level of most Flashes. Zoom and maybe Bart are faster.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats why prime fears fighting the flashes and had to resort in a spin instead of fighting them somewhat like amazo did.

He spun around in a circle and hit them with several punches. He fears fighting them because he doesn't want to be trapped in the Speed Force again, not because he can't fight them in a competent manner. It's a psychological thing, like how he's scared of the dark.

He's scared of the dark?

Originally posted by Rorschach
He spun around in a circle and hit them with several punches. He fears fighting them because he doesn't want to be trapped in the Speed Force again, not because he can't fight them in a competent manner. It's a psychological thing, like how he's scared of the dark.

If he so much faster then them why couldnt he just blitz flash and knock them out before them even having the time to put him in the speed force. I think that spin feat is overrated and you all area reading into it to much.

super boy prime also scared the hell out of flash when he was coming back from the speed force and they could not contain him there.

The flash had to absorb the entire speed force into himself and burn it out just to escape a severely weakened superboy prime.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The runner NEVER used the gem like Thanos did. He only accessed it for teleportation and only by accident. Or Subconciously. Also Superboy prime at that stage had on his solar suit. Which is nothing like his full power stage or when he had the gaurdian amp. The post is terrible and the comparison can't stick.

Regardless of "how" it has been used before by Runner, The SG allows those abilities to whomever possesses it. So in terms here, its possible to be used in many ways thats above SMP's capability to match.

Unless you can prove Runner can't fully utilize it in any of these ways, SMP gets pwned here.

Originally posted by carver9
If he so much faster then them why couldnt he just blitz flash and knock them out before them even having the time to put him in the speed force.

Because he isn't exactly the smartest character around. He had plenty of time to avoid getting dragged into the speed force when Impulse was the only one around, but instead he spent that time mocking Impulse. Besides, I don't believe Prime is significantly faster than Wally.

Originally posted by carver9
I think that spin feat is overrated and you all area reading into it to much.

The fact is that he countered three Flash's by punching them off of him at super-speed. We're not reading into it too much, we're stating exactly what happened. You on the other hand, like to leave out the fact the punched them all, so that you can undermine the feat.

Originally posted by carver9
If he so much faster then them why couldnt he just blitz flash and knock them out before them even having the time to put him in the speed force. I think that spin feat is overrated and you all area reading into it to much.
Maybe because he was caught off guard and blindsided and was already in the process of being put in the Speed Force? And not to mention, though having overall high intelligence, his battle mind is not very good, instead of trying to resist Bart, he was mocking him and telling him he can't do it, and then a bunch of other Flashes helped Bart out.

You think the spin is overrated cause you don't like it. You like to pretend he didn't throw any punches so you can say he has crappy combat speed, which in the end only makes you look bad.